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golfing eagles 05-10-2017 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1397156)
Actually TV is now getting so large it might be a nice idea to see if we could get a shuttle running between all of the squares and down to Fenny, with 'shared' or rentable golf carts at each end. Not sure if this is practical, just a thought, I will be interested to see the comments and suggestions. The idea would be a continuous running shuttle, no schedule, just say every 15, 20, 30 minutes between the hours of x and y. Golf cart rental could be waved or reduced if used for golfing, or shopping. I think the possibilities could be interesting. Think of a mass transit system based on buses and golf carts. Lots of details to work out and consider, but there is a great group of people here, maybe this could work.....

How about a golf cart carrier shuttle, just like a car carrier or the auto train?

DonH57 05-10-2017 04:21 PM

We'll need a service plaza for the cart path as well.

Shimpy 05-10-2017 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1396955)
A tunnel; a bridge like over 27/441 would be too costly, time consuming and unsafe; just my opinion.

I would think tunneling under an existing road would be more expensive since the soil under is sand and the need to support the road above. All tunnels I've seen here were built first and then the road built over them. I guess that's what engineers are for.

villagetinker 05-10-2017 08:04 PM

Word just out, there was an additional land purchase, and it was announced that there will be a bridge over RT 44 to get from Brownwood to Fenny.

Nucky 05-10-2017 08:16 PM

Tunnel's Good. Bridge N.G.

dewilson58 05-10-2017 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zummy (Post 1396951)
Anyone know?


Quickly.

Cedwards38 05-11-2017 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1397220)
Quickly.

:1rotfl:

That would give a whole new definition to the game Frogger as it relates to The Villages.

Frogger - YouTube

kstew43 05-11-2017 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1396956)
Is there not already a cattle bridge that can me used for carts?

The is a bridge built previously as you said and TV now owns all the land surrounding it.

Thats how they can get the golf carts to 44 and beyond.

zummy 05-14-2017 05:12 PM

You still need to get over the turnpike

ColdNoMore 05-14-2017 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by zummy (Post 1398512)
You still need to get over the turnpike

See post #8.

HoosierPa 05-14-2017 08:23 PM

TV only owns land on one side of Bailey Bridge plus it is too far Southeast

champion6 05-15-2017 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by zummy (Post 1396951)
Anyone know?

From May 15 Daily Sun, C1:
"<snip> (Mark Morse) also announced the purchase of 359 acres just south of Buena Vista Boulevard that could provide access to the villages of Fenney and Southern Oaks via a bridge over Florida's Turnpike."

Presumably, Buena Vista would run southward on the west side of Lake Okahumpka, over the Turnpike at a location north of the Okahumpka Service Plaza, then southward to CR468 and to a tunnel that is planned to go under CR468.

Dynsol 05-15-2017 08:41 AM

Uber Drones ! ?:pepper2:

golfing eagles 05-15-2017 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 1397168)
I would think tunneling under an existing road would be more expensive since the soil under is sand and the need to support the road above. All tunnels I've seen here were built first and then the road built over them. I guess that's what engineers are for.

That's what they do. Lincoln Tunnel, Holland Tunnel---both a LOT longer and a LOT deeper, and the Hudson River was already there, all built with 1930's technology. Somebody on another thread commented that they can't build a tunnel wide enough for 2 cars to pass, much less golf carts. Seriously??? I think either way, tunnel or bridge, they will make it work

ColdNoMore 05-15-2017 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1398710)
That's what they do. Lincoln Tunnel, Holland Tunnel---both a LOT longer and a LOT deeper, and the Hudson River was already there, all built with 1930's technology. Somebody on another thread commented that they can't build a tunnel wide enough for 2 cars to pass, much less golf carts. Seriously??? I think either way, tunnel or bridge, they will make it work

That's not even close to what was said. :oops:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...72-post21.html

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1397672)
I am thinking that tunneling under a divided 4 lane turnpike, would be much more problematic (and expensive?), plus it would be hard to make it large enough to get a pickup sized vehicle from one side to the other...which I believe will be something they will want with this crossing.

I guess we will just have to wait and see.
:shrug:

"Problematic" = Relatively large tunnel size needed for two pickups to pass due to lack of bedrock, needed strengthening for sandy soil, complicated drainage issues (and possible pumping needed) for high water table, mobilizing a boring machine since cut & cover wouldn't most likely be allowed across turnpike, etc., etc.

Please note that I did not say..."it can't be done." :ohdear:


Although different environmental conditions, some of the same issues of a tunnel versus a bridge...are covered in this article.

FACTSHEET: Why a bridge instead of a tunnel? | BC Gov News


Just setting the record straight. :ho:


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