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Karmanng 09-25-2022 09:39 AM

Considering Property Taxes in Sumter County
 
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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2139661)
Not everyone has their water and sewer as part of the amenities fee. Our fee is currently $177. It started at $159 when we bought 3+ Years ago. With trash fees our monthly bill is $199. We get a separate water and sewer bill that is generally $40-60 a month.


Can you get the senior discount if you are renting it out at all before moving?

Karmanng 09-25-2022 09:40 AM

How do you get the seperate water bill ?

Karmanng 09-25-2022 09:41 AM

I just bought and mine is $179.00

Karmanng 09-25-2022 09:42 AM

I would like to sell the homes in the villages do you know how you can?

Karmanng 09-25-2022 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2139593)
Look at both MLS and VLS listings. You just never know. BTW, There is no such thing as a "Villages Realtor". Villages agents are licensed but are NOT Realtors.

do you know how to become a vls agent?

Karmanng 09-25-2022 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ron32162 (Post 2139777)
There are NO Village Realtors only village sales people "Realtor" is a trademark and only can be used by members belonging to the NAR. Village sales people, their principal is the builder who they represent. A mls Realtor their principal is the customer That would be You.

VLS dont give you uch information on the homes either when you start asking questions they seem to blow it off

Karmanng 09-25-2022 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2139699)
When comparing price of new vs pre owned, you need to consider the after market upgrades the pre owned has. Things like painted/coated driveway.garage, water systems, screening, solar tubes, plantation shutters, etc.
That is one reason why pre owned are listed at a higher price.
Don’t forget to investigate the bond. New home are probably in the $30,000 ranges, pre owned may by in the 10,000 to 15,000 range or may be paid off.

Yes I think pre owned is better.......Everyone has the same landscaping when new and things are not established yet......did not like the new areas either such as Deluna its a swamp

manaboutown 09-25-2022 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Karmanng (Post 2139818)
VLS dont give you uch information on the homes either when you start asking questions they seem to blow it off

When I asked about the bond when my first Villages agent was showing me a new spec home he looked at me as if he had never heard of such a thing! Lol. He was disingenuous. I never really got much of an answer or even a ballpark figure on how much the bond would be.

Villages agents represent the seller of new homes, The Villages, not the buyer!

sbedell 09-25-2022 10:26 AM

Corrections
 
Like most posts, there is a lot of good information but also a lot of misinformation. I'm an MLS Realtor so I'm going to address some of the comments.

Properties of The Villages: If you want a new home, they are the only choice. They can also buy/sell pre-owned but ONLY in The Villages. They do NOT work with MLS agents at all, there are not 'some' that will. They are not Realtors, but that does not make them evil. :) They currently sell all new properties and about 50% of the pre-owned properties in The Villages. Since they are not in MLS, they are also not listed in Zillow, Redfin, etc online, only in The Daily Sun, their website and radio station. They have about 300 agents.

MLS: MLS agents and POV agents do NOT cooperate with each other, so if you see a property listed on MLS, Zillow, etc, you CANNOT use a POV agent. There are about 1,000 MLS agents in the greater TV area. MLS agents can buy/sell anywhere in Florida. About 50% of pre-owned properties are sold by MLS Realtors.

As you can see by the above, things work a little bit differently in TV compared to other places. That's why many people choose both a POV agent and an MLS Realtor when looking to buy. I hope this clears things up for you! :22yikes:

JMintzer 09-25-2022 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MrChip72 (Post 2139656)
When we bought this past spring we were pretty much 90% set on pre-owned. We looked at several pre-owned and very quickly after checking out new homes after that we changed our minds to only want something new. The newer builds are generally better laid out, using more energy efficient everything, more modern kitchens and bathrooms, and seem to sell for around the same price as pre-owned. Not to mention, in the new areas the average age is closer to 60 than 80 like some of the original areas.

One thing about The Villages... There is constant turnover, with younger people moving in as the older people move on...

This goes for ALL areas...

JMintzer 09-25-2022 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Donaz1 (Post 2139729)
In my experience working with both, I would never use VLS. You are not offered the protections that an MLS must adhered to. A friend recently bought an older home owned by the villages. They went ahead and hired their own inspector and gave her the report - unethical IMO.

What "protection" would that be?

JMintzer 09-25-2022 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dilligas (Post 2139730)
If you want to see every house for sale in TV, then you will need both MLS & TV. TV handle about twice the sales of resales and 100% of new. The “line” about TV agents are not realtors is spun by MLS agents, because TV can not sell MLS and vice versa……BOTH are licensed by the state of Florida. Some of TV agents get along with MLS and can work together. You can only see MLS homes on MLS, and only see TV homes on TV website. As with any transaction, get agents you like and trust, there are good & bad in both organizations.

Correct. Our "Villages" Agent took us where WE wanted to go, and contacted one of her friends, who was an MLS agent to show us the few homes that we wanted to see that were not listed on TV website. We found them on Zillow and Redfin...

She made sure WE were happy... She was referred to us by friends, who had used her 3 times. If we ever decide to move, I would not hesitate to use her again...

JMintzer 09-25-2022 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2139734)
Very important location! Location! and community travel if you cannot drive.

If you cannot drive, I would think TV is not the place for you, unless you move close enough to walk to any shopping, Dr's offices etc...

dewilson58 09-25-2022 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MSGirl (Post 2139798)
................. member of the NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS® and subscribes to its strict Code of Ethics.

Which means NOTHING.

Darield 09-25-2022 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KatieRN (Post 2139583)
My husband and I are coming for a lifestyle visit in October. I have 3 questions about realtors. 1)Why would someone list with MLS rather than a Villages realtor? 2)If I'm looking for a preowned home should I look at both? 3)Someone on this forum said a friend of theirs was paying 500.00 in amenity fees. Doesn't everyone pay the same? Thanks in advance for the info and advice. Excited to see all the Villages offers!

Village realtors do not have a realtors license.They are sales people for the Villages. Their focus is on new homes although they will show you homes that are listed with them. The best thing to do is use both. That way you have access to all homes for sale. As far as amenity fees, they go higher in the newer neighborhoods in the South. The bonds in the newer homes are also much higher. We bought an older home near the polo grounds and the bond had already been paid and we have one of the lower amenity fees. The homes and area have a very different feel South of 466A than the ones up North. Look at a variety of areas so you can determine what is best for you.

Stu from NYC 09-25-2022 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Darield (Post 2139872)
Village realtors do not have a realtors license.They are sales people for the Villages. Their focus is on new homes although they will show you homes that are listed with them. The best thing to do is use both. That way you have access to all homes for sale. As far as amenity fees, they go higher in the newer neighborhoods in the South. The bonds in the newer homes are also much higher. We bought an older home near the polo grounds and the bond had already been paid and we have one of the lower amenity fees. The homes and area have a very different feel South of 466A than the ones up North. Look at a variety of areas so you can determine what is best for you.

Very true. I will add a one week lifestyle visit is not nearly enough time to decide where you might want to live. We did a month and could easily have done longer

JMintzer 09-25-2022 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by msilagy (Post 2139755)
Remember you will have a BOND on new or newer construction. Paid with taxes. Many realtors never mention that important fact!

Well, considering it's listed on pretty much every single home posting, it's kind of hard to miss...

JMintzer 09-25-2022 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2139764)
We took the double-barreled approach when buying: working both with a Villages guy and an outside realtor. Both were excellent. Lennie Berger (the Villages agent) was outstanding. We ended up not buying from him (opting instead to purchase a home listed by an outside realty company) but we had no issues with either. If you're looking at new, however, as other posts indicate, you'll have to work with a Villages agent.

We chose pre-owned, for several reasons. More established neighborhoods, generally quieter (our village has only one way in and out so very little traffic), no bond (a biggie), and a whole lot closer to essential businesses and services that the new construction in the South seems to be (we're maybe 10 minutes by golf cart from Lowe's, Wal-mart, Publix, Aldi, Doctor, Dentist, Spanish Springs Town square, a couple of strip malls, etc.).

Enjoy your lifestyle visit! But be prepared for the lily to be heavily gilded. Back in the world I enjoyed woodworking. When discussing hobbies with our Villages "guide" during our lifestyle visit I mentioned that fact. He took us to the woodshop (only one at the time) and proudly showed how it worked, what was expected of the people using it, etc. No mention however that the waiting list was years long (and with the huge influx of people recently, probably approaching a decade). A few other such gildings, but really minor in comparison to what The Villages is, and has to offer.

Enjoy your visit and best of luck buying

Someone just posted (who is a member of the woodshop) that the waiting list is NOT 'years long"...

chrissy2231 09-25-2022 12:05 PM

Moving to The Villages
 
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Originally Posted by KatieRN (Post 2139583)
My husband and I are coming for a lifestyle visit in October. I have 3 questions about realtors. 1)Why would someone list with MLS rather than a Villages realtor? 2)If I'm looking for a preowned home should I look at both? 3)Someone on this forum said a friend of theirs was paying 500.00 in amenity fees. Doesn't everyone pay the same? Thanks in advance for the info and advice. Excited to see all the Villages offers!


Villages realtors only have access to the houses that home owners list with them. You would be limiting yourself if you don't use MLS. You're not the one paying the fee; the home owner is. $500 is untrue. I pay $173.50. When I first moved in 6 years ago, fee was $149. Extremely normal increase!

JMintzer 09-25-2022 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ron32162 (Post 2139777)
There are NO Village Realtors only village sales people "Realtor" is a trademark and only can be used by members belonging to the NAR. Village sales people, their principal is the builder who they represent. A mls Realtor their principal is the customer That would be You.

Or the seller, who would be someone else...

JMintzer 09-25-2022 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MSGirl (Post 2139798)
To clarify between a REALTOR and a sales agent, all real estate agents are sales agents: includes both MLS and VLS agents.

The term REALTOR® has one, and only one, meaning: REALTOR® is a federally registered collective membership mark which identifies a real estate professional who is member of the NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS® and subscribes to its strict Code of Ethics.
A VLS agent cannot be a REALTOR. But they can and do sell Villages homes. Only a Villages agent can sell new in The Villages.

Per the NAR, their "code of ethics" is simply a guideline...

Remembergoldenrule 09-25-2022 12:11 PM

You should look at both mls and the villages. You will only see half the homes otherwise. The villages also get more for pushing below 44.

For convenience you want above 44.

When looking at price, think how much you will have to pay to pay and the trouble you will go through to “save” money when in reality you will have to pay $30 -40k for repaint (6k) landscaping (10-20 k) , solar tubes with night lights ($800 each) plantation shutters (4-6k), cornices (700 each), epoxy garage (2k), enclosed lanai 10-20k., new floors (15 -20 k), insulation over attic (800) attic fans (800) you get the idea.

Neighbor just did all this then had to move due to family problem back home.

We live in Dunedin. Our fee is $177.

If you are quiet with no loud music or motorcycles come check us out great neighbors with occasional whole neighborhood block parties and our own quiet street get togethers. Ewing Ave
Their house is on Zillow or Realtor.com use realtor of choice.

3526 Ewing Ave, The Villages, FL 32163 | MLS #G5057350 | Zillow

JMintzer 09-25-2022 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2139830)
When I asked about the bond when my first Villages agent was showing me a new spec home he looked at me as if he had never heard of such a thing! Lol. He was disingenuous. I never really got much of an answer or even a ballpark figure on how much the bond would be.

Villages agents represent the seller of new homes, The Villages, not the buyer!

Was your 2nd agent better? Sounds like you got a bad one. Just like there are bad realtors...

I had none of those issues with my agent...

JMintzer 09-25-2022 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sbedell (Post 2139837)
Like most posts, there is a lot of good information but also a lot of misinformation. I'm an MLS Realtor so I'm going to address some of the comments.

Properties of The Villages: If you want a new home, they are the only choice. They can also buy/sell pre-owned but ONLY in The Villages. They do NOT work with MLS agents at all, there are not 'some' that will. They are not Realtors, but that does not make them evil. :) They currently sell all new properties and about 50% of the pre-owned properties in The Villages. Since they are not in MLS, they are also not listed in Zillow, Redfin, etc online, only in The Daily Sun, their website and radio station. They have about 300 agents.

MLS: MLS agents and POV agents do NOT cooperate with each other, so if you see a property listed on MLS, Zillow, etc, you CANNOT use a POV agent. There are about 1,000 MLS agents in the greater TV area. MLS agents can buy/sell anywhere in Florida. About 50% of pre-owned properties are sold by MLS Realtors.

As you can see by the above, things work a little bit differently in TV compared to other places. That's why many people choose both a POV agent and an MLS Realtor when looking to buy. I hope this clears things up for you! :22yikes:

Well, our agent took us to see several "MLS" listed homes, even though she knew she would not make a commission on the sale. She did everything she could do to make sure WE were happy. She now has a customer for life...

We already contacted her on a home we saw listed in Dunedin (it had an in-law suite with a kitchenette, making it a 4 BR, 3BA that would have been perfect as a media room/"man-cave"), but alas, the timing was wrong...

It's all about building relationships...

Dburesh 09-25-2022 05:45 PM

MLS vs. Villages realtors
 
Glad to hear that you coming to The Villages for a visit! It will take you 1 day to know that this is where you want to live...it's Paradise! I'm NOT a realtor, but have sold homes on my own before, since we have been in 3 different ones since we moved here, so I'm very knowledgeable on what goes on around here. If you are going to purchase a pre-owned home, you need to pay attention to the balance on the bond initially so you are aware of your situation. My parents built here 22 years ago, so they have seen many changes take place, some good & some bad! There are many things to consider so feel free to give me a call @ 513-222-2981 @ your convenience. I can also tell you the positives & negatives of each area. Good Luck, Doreen

Vegasvee 09-25-2022 05:55 PM

We’re considering moving to The Villages, but have concerns regarding the weather there, primarily hurricanes and damage they can cause. We live in the desert and barely have rain, mosquitoes, flea. Any input is appreciated.

Worldseries27 09-25-2022 10:30 PM

S. Of 44 aka. This joint is jumping jumping s
 
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Originally Posted by katiern (Post 2139583)
my husband and i are coming for a lifestyle visit in october. I have 3 questions about realtors. 1)why would someone list with mls rather than a villages realtor? 2)if i'm looking for a preowned home should i look at both? 3)someone on this forum said a friend of theirs was paying 500.00 in amenity fees. Doesn't everyone pay the same? Thanks in advance for the info and advice. Excited to see all the villages offers!

straight from my financials
1 amenity. 172. 08
2 sanitation. 21.41
3 lawn irrigation. Large lot. 92.47 (3x wk)
4. Residental water 70.73
good luck

MrChip72 09-25-2022 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Remembergoldenrule (Post 2139895)
in reality you will have to pay $30 -40k for repaint (6k) landscaping (10-20 k) , solar tubes with night lights ($800 each) plantation shutters (4-6k), cornices (700 each), epoxy garage (2k), enclosed lanai 10-20k., new floors (15 -20 k), insulation over attic (800) attic fans (800)

You just listed many of the extras that I never plan to get done to my existing home in TV at least in the next forseeable 10+ years, and certainly not for those prices.

Carol Fiore 09-26-2022 06:27 AM

I think the Senior discount is for residence only. Call Sumter County.

barbielusby 09-26-2022 06:33 AM

realtor
 
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Originally Posted by KatieRN (Post 2139583)
My husband and I are coming for a lifestyle visit in October. I have 3 questions about realtors. 1)Why would someone list with MLS rather than a Villages realtor? 2)If I'm looking for a preowned home should I look at both? 3)Someone on this forum said a friend of theirs was paying 500.00 in amenity fees. Doesn't everyone pay the same? Thanks in advance for the info and advice. Excited to see all the Villages offers!

I have a great realtor Cindy Foster {Cindy Foster} 352-460-2260} she does all the work looking for homes for you. Barbara

defrey12 09-26-2022 07:10 AM

…or her daughter, Kelley. The best! Caveat to buying a “previously owned” home: it’s probably going to need work…least of all, a new roof. Get a GOOD inspection/inspector. We were in the “rehab” business for a long time…you can easily hit $50k in upgrades and rehab. We chose a NEW build. Just sayin’…

merled 09-26-2022 07:48 AM

My home is for sale, check it out. Thanks for looking.
 
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Originally Posted by KatieRN (Post 2139583)
My husband and I are coming for a lifestyle visit in October. I have 3 questions about realtors. 1)Why would someone list with MLS rather than a Villages realtor? 2)If I'm looking for a preowned home should I look at both? 3)Someone on this forum said a friend of theirs was paying 500.00 in amenity fees. Doesn't everyone pay the same? Thanks in advance for the info and advice. Excited to see all the Villages offers!


merled 09-26-2022 07:51 AM

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale

bimmertl 09-26-2022 09:21 AM

The first thing our MLS agent did was pull out a map of the Villages and show us where the water treatment plants were and also where the train tracks were. Most likely don't want to be close to either one of them and the Villages agent we used never mentioned them.

Probably don't want to be close to pickleball courts either.

Bellavita 09-26-2022 09:40 AM

amenity fees are not $500 and yes all residents pay the same. Ours is like $160 as far as new vs existing. It depends on what you want to do and if you want to pay the bond? I am not sure what the bond is but I am assuming it is quite high. Be mindful of the Turnpike and get a good Villages person to show you around.

Its not rocket science if you have bought real estate before. Do you have a dog? Check out the neighbors first. I would not buy anywhere if I didn't meet the neighbors on either side. It can be a total nightmare if you get the wrong person.

We are so lucky with neighbors it is a blessing, There are horror stories about others so buyer beware.

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Originally Posted by KatieRN (Post 2139583)
My husband and I are coming for a lifestyle visit in October. I have 3 questions about realtors. 1)Why would someone list with MLS rather than a Villages realtor? 2)If I'm looking for a preowned home should I look at both? 3)Someone on this forum said a friend of theirs was paying 500.00 in amenity fees. Doesn't everyone pay the same? Thanks in advance for the info and advice. Excited to see all the Villages offers!


TerryCamlin 09-26-2022 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KatieRN (Post 2139583)
My husband and I are coming for a lifestyle visit in October. I have 3 questions about realtors. 1)Why would someone list with MLS rather than a Villages realtor? 2)If I'm looking for a preowned home should I look at both? 3)Someone on this forum said a friend of theirs was paying 500.00 in amenity fees. Doesn't everyone pay the same? Thanks in advance for the info and advice. Excited to see all the Villages offers!

Definitely get a MLS Realtor and a Village Realtor. Beware unless you ask the Village Realtor to see resales they will steer you to new homes. Do not discount For Sale by Owners also. You can use Zillow and the Sun (local paper). New homes come with hefty bonds (every home has one). The difference is instead of being new $40k you will see much lower bonds North of 44 and a lot of owners paid them off so you may have zero to pay extra. Also the taxes on the new homes are 4x's what I pay North of 44. My Designer Aspen is $2900 a year. Beware of turnpike noise, federal prisons and the quarry south of 44. People complain after they buy so do your homework. Not all homes are affected but some definitely are. You determine your level of comfort & what you can afford not anybody else. No matter where you buy the Villages is a great place to call home. If it's a preowned home meet your neighbors to ensure it's not a rental (there are lots of them out there) & that they are friendly. 95% are but we do have some grumps like every area. Also if there is a golf cart path next to your home expect to hear them starting about 6:00 am when they head out for their tee time. Some have radios blaring. I chose not to be on a golf cart path, not to be too close to the water basin (aka lakes-flooding), not to be too close to a major rec center (pickleball & volley ball noise) and to avoid main roads. Even though my neighbors are close it's very quiet and that is what I desired most. Good Luck!!!

Papa_lecki 09-26-2022 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TerryCamlin (Post 2140139)
Also the taxes on the new homes are 4x's what I pay North of 44. My Designer Aspen is $2900 a year.

YOu cant compare property taxes, dont assume what is on Realtor.com is what youll pay.
At the sale, the county reassesses. Also, you dont know about homestead exemptions.
So someone who bought their home 25 years ago with a homestead exemption will pay MUC less than their next door neighbor who bought this year.

bark4me 09-26-2022 08:25 PM

You'll probably get more homes to look at with a VLS agent. Very few MLS listing in TV. We had a VLS agent and an MLS agent. Never heard from the MLS agent.

manaboutown 09-26-2022 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bark4me (Post 2140279)
You'll probably get more homes to look at with a VLS agent. Very few MLS listing in TV. We had a VLS agent and an MLS agent. Never heard from the MLS agent.

My original VLS agent steered me only to new homes and evaded showing me resales even after numerous requests. It appears VLS agents are incentivized to sell new homes to peddle whatever the developer is building.

JMintzer 09-27-2022 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2140283)
My original VLS agent steered me only to new homes and evaded showing me resales even after numerous requests. It appears VLS agents are incentivized to sell new homes to peddle whatever the developer is building.

No, unfortunately, that was YOUR original agent. Mine showed me exactly what and where I wanted to buy...

Did your 2nd agent do the same thing?


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