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Barefoot 05-28-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by islandgal (Post 287331)
Russ -
Many people avoid the outside pools in the hot summer months because there is very little shade
to escape the sun that can be harmful to some, i.e., melonomia
I for one would be in an indoor pool most of the summer and I feel certain others would be also.

P.S. Does anyone know what happened to the beautiful indoor pool at the former Wellness Center adjacent to the hospital?
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It's nostalgic to see an old post from Islandgal, knowing she is no longer with us in physical form.

When I left TV in May, the beautiful indoor pool at the former Wellness Center was in the process of being filled in.

golf4me 05-28-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by happylady (Post 683370)
I have been looking for an indoor pool also. I thought I was the only one that need this.

There may be a half dozen, thus possibly the reason that none is available. In truth there may be as many as two hundred or even five hundred who would like an indoor pool but that still is less than a percentage point of the total population.

jblum315 05-28-2013 12:33 PM

My brother-in-law and his wife were in the pool every single morning during the winter. Don't know how they do it, but they are not the only ones. The water is warm enough - it's when you get out that you really suffer.

justjim 05-28-2013 01:46 PM

I see this is an old Thread revived---nothing wrong with that. Last winter was not near as cold as a couple years ago. I swim some but not an avid swimmer but prefer to work out at the Colony Fitness Center. Point is we pay extra for fitness. Why not a couple of heated indoor pools for those that have need for such facilities and charge similar to Fitness? Maybe there is not the demand.

Bonny 05-28-2013 02:16 PM

We have a ton of pools & so many people complain about them being crowded. How many indoor pools do you think they would have to build so everyone has access to them ?
Indoor pools are great, but there is no way they could build enough of them for 100,000 plus thousand people.
Definitely more shaded areas are needed at our pools.

ilovetv 05-28-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 683465)
We have a ton of pools & so many people complain about them being crowded. How many indoor pools do you think they would have to build so everyone has access to them ?
Indoor pools are great, but there is no way they could build enough of them for 100,000 plus thousand people.
Definitely more shaded areas are needed at our pools.

At least one indoor lap pool is needed and it doesn't need to be for "100,000 plus" people, given the number of existing sport pools most people would use when/if they can take the sun/skin-cancer risk and tolerate the cold of winter for a few weeks.

An example is that University of Florida-Gainesville has 50,000 students, and the need for lap swimming and team training is met there with one indoor natatorium of 8 lanes. And the fact that it is an indoor natatorium and not an outdoor one speaks clearly to the need in this region for an indoor one.

See link:
Stephen C. O'Connell Center at the University of Florida

Russ_Boston 05-28-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 683482)
At least one indoor lap pool is needed and it doesn't need to be for "100,000 plus" people, given the number of existing sport pools most people would use when/if they can take the sun/skin-cancer risk and tolerate the cold of winter for a few weeks.

An example is that University of Florida-Gainesville has 50,000 students, and the need for lap swimming and team training is met there with one indoor natatorium of 8 lanes. And the fact that it is an indoor natatorium and not an outdoor one speaks clearly to the need in this region for an indoor one.

See link:
Stephen C. O'Connell Center at the University of Florida

Yes but I'll bet the general population of students has very limited time frames for its use.

The very fact that MVP has decided to build another facility in Brownwood and is not considering an indoor pool should show that people won't pay any extra fees for it. I'm sure they'd build it if it would generate extra revenue.

jblum315 05-28-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 683514)
Yes but I'll bet the general population of students has very limited time frames for its use.

The very fact that MVP has decided to build another facility in Brownwood and is not considering an indoor pool should show that people won't pay any extra fees for it. I'm sure they'd build it if it would generate extra revenue.

Don't hold your breath. it ain't gonna happen.

mickey100 05-28-2013 05:24 PM

I expect the cost of building an indoor pool would be extremely high, and that may be why MVP did not build one - startup costs. There were numerous petitions circulated, and many signatures of people interested a few years ago. With the increase in population since that time, I don't think there would be any problem finding enough people willing to pay a fee for the pool. Just my opinion. But I agree jblum315, it ain't gonna happen. its a lot easier to take a building, fill it up with some exercise machines, perhaps leased, then to risk big money on a pool.

OscarOlden 05-28-2013 07:39 PM

indoor pools
 
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Originally Posted by golf4me (Post 683400)
There may be a half dozen, thus possibly the reason that none is available. In truth there may be as many as two hundred or even five hundred who would like an indoor pool but that still is less than a percentage point of the total population.

How many times have you been to the sports pools and talked to people who use the sports pools? We have water aerobics, water walkers, syncho swimmers, lap swimmers, water volleyball players, etc., etc. who would LOVE an indoor pool. There are many of us who would enjoy an indoor pool, many. There is not just a half dozen or a few hundred.

I personally have had a loved one die of melanoma. He spent every winter in Florida enjoying the beautiful sunshine while delighting in the outdoor pools.

Those of you who think there is no problem because the pool water is warm, try swimming in an outdoor pool in Ottawa in the cool months. The water is warm but the air temperature is so cold. It is COLD swimming in The Villages pools during cool weather and rainy weather.

Mikeod 05-28-2013 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OscarOlden (Post 683611)
How many times have you been to the sports pools and talked to people who use the sports pools? We have water aerobics, water walkers, syncho swimmers, lap swimmers, water volleyball players, etc., etc. who would LOVE an indoor pool. There are many of us who would enjoy an indoor pool, many. There is not just a half dozen or a few hundred.

I personally have had a loved one die of melanoma. He spent every winter in Florida enjoying the beautiful sunshine while delighting in the outdoor pools.

Those of you who think there is no problem because the pool water is warm, try swimming in an outdoor pool in Ottawa in the cool months. The water is warm but the air temperature is so cold. It is COLD swimming in The Villages pools during cool weather and rainy weather.

Sounds like you're actually making an argument against anyone building an indoor pool. If there are so many that want one, how many pools would be needed to meet the demand, especially in the high season? How many of those people you describe would be willing to pay extra to use it? Or would a fee discourage them? Don't you think that if an indoor pool was sustainable financially that the developer would put one or more in already? I'm confident that if it were viable, we would have one or more. These are not inexperienced business people.

ilovetv 05-28-2013 10:13 PM

How would golfers like it if non-golfers here told them in a mocking tone that no more golf courses are needed in the new construction villages south of 466-A??

That is exactly what is being done to lap/fitness/team swimmers here who state the need--for various reasons--for an indoor lap pool.

People who never swim in a lap/sport pool here do not know what the needs and willingness to pay for a membership are of the people who do use the lap/sport pools.

And as for those who say "there's not enough interest shown in an indoor lap pool" and those who say "people wouldn't want to pay for a membership", well I'd say "how are people supposed to say they want it and would pay for a membership" when we've never been asked??

Surely we state the need/desire in the annual TV Survey, but we are not told the results of written comments about this subject.

Bonny 05-29-2013 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 683482)
At least one indoor lap pool is needed and it doesn't need to be for "100,000 plus" people, given the number of existing sport pools most people would use when/if they can take the sun/skin-cancer risk and tolerate the cold of winter for a few weeks.

An example is that University of Florida-Gainesville has 50,000 students, and the need for lap swimming and team training is met there with one indoor natatorium of 8 lanes. And the fact that it is an indoor natatorium and not an outdoor one speaks clearly to the need in this region for an indoor one.

See link:
Stephen C. O'Connell Center at the University of Florida

That's a school. We have almost 100,000 retired people. You can't compare that with a school !

mickey100 05-29-2013 06:01 AM

Yes 100,000 retired old people with time on their hands will undoubtedly have more use for an indoor pool than some students.

Russ_Boston 05-29-2013 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 683705)
How would golfers like it if non-golfers here told them in a mocking tone that no more golf courses are needed in the new construction villages south of 466-A??

That is exactly what is being done to lap/fitness/team swimmers here who state the need--for various reasons--for an indoor lap pool.

Not exactly. There never was an indoor lap pool supplied by TV. (The wellness center had one and it was a separate membership not affiliated with your monthly amenity fees). So when you purchased your house there was no indoor pool included anywhere. Golf was and is part of the monthly fees.


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