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gemini5001 06-25-2021 07:05 AM

Good work isn't cheap and cheap work isn't good !

retiredguy123 06-25-2021 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Laurel Maryland (Post 1964770)
I'm new to Florida. Is it legal for a contractor to request a 50% deposit in FL? In Maryland, they cannot, by law, request more than 1/3.

Yes, it is legal in Florida. In Maryland, the contractor can only request a 1/3 deposit, but the homeowner doesn't need to pay it. But, even if you pay a deposit, the homeowner can require it to be paid with a credit card, where the charge can be disputed with the bank within 60 days of the statement date. Any reputable contractor should accept credit card payments. And, as long as you agree in writing that the materials will be delivered within 60 days of the credit card charge, the homeowner has no risk with the credit card payment. If the materials are delayed, you can cancel the credit card charge and issue a new charge.

GOLFER54 06-25-2021 07:27 AM

Never pay anyone in advance, i know at least half a dozen folks in the villages that have lost thousands by doing so.

DAVES 06-25-2021 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1964653)
Fraud? Very hard to prove!! Crime? Prove it!! This is a civil matter. Take it to court for a refund if its even worth the hassle. And again, buyer beware. More homework should have been done since roofing and driveways are the biggests problems with workers

Take it to court in reality is an illusion. An Attorney will cost you like $300 an hour.
There is small claims court. In my life, I've done that twice, not in Florida. I won and collected both times. That is actually impressive. A large percentage of people that win in small claims court never collect. When, I did it, not in Florida it cost less than $20 to file the case. I've been corrected. In Florida it is far more expensive to file and the cost to file goes up with the amount of the case.

DAVES 06-25-2021 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pegamyheart (Post 1964575)
Yes, I did pay her a deposit of half to pay for materials. She would not start without it. My mistake I guess. Does anyone repair and complete drives?

Sadly typical posts. Some people are so weak in ego that they need to berate others.
We are sooooooo lucky to live with people who have never made a mistake in their lives.

As far as legal. You may need legal advice. If, the materials are on your site, do you own them?

As far as credit cards. There is no shortage of partial and incorrect information. If, you dispute a charge on a credit card the credit card company will investigate. It is at best fuzzy. They will delay paying for I think it is 90 days. The person, company that billed you must agree to forfeit or reduce the charge. They do not simply say you are wrong and we are not paying.

Neils 06-25-2021 08:19 AM

Regarding cc disputes
The cc will investigate but if merchant/contractor claims they completed the agreement, the cc company will usually allow the payment and tell you that you have a right to take the merchant to court.

I guess the cc companies do not want to involved in potential lawsuits.

Charlie'sDad 06-25-2021 08:23 AM

You should have contacted Decorative Concrete.
 
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Originally Posted by Pegamyheart (Post 1964525)
Heads up to those having driveway work done. We hired Trish Karz and crew at Cost Less Driveway Designs out of Summerfield. We were taken by her personality and artwork. After a day, the crew of 1 disappeared. Trish, known for her artwork showed up only for a couple hours a day, when she showed. Always had a meaningful excuse. Project dragged on for weeks before we cut our losses. Along the way, she also complained about other angry and frustrated clients. She clearly has many troubles. Presents well, but is not to be believed. I see now her good references ended in 2019. We will have to grind down and start over I think unless we can find someone to repair and finish.


You should have contacted Decorative Concrete. We had a quote 3 yrs ago from another painter and it was about $1500 more because they had to grind off the old paint job that was done 15 years ago. Cliff Rider is an honest, polite guy and didn't ask for payment until the job was done.

hav7979 06-25-2021 08:29 AM

We used stone creations. They did our drive last spring and did a great job. Only took a couple of days and price was very reasonable.

retiredguy123 06-25-2021 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Neils (Post 1964829)
Regarding cc disputes
The cc will investigate but if merchant/contractor claims they completed the agreement, the cc company will usually allow the payment and tell you that you have a right to take the merchant to court.

I guess the cc companies do not want to involved in potential lawsuits.

That is not correct. When you dispute a credit card charge, the bank must immediately remove the charge and investigate the issue, and make a fair determination of whether the merchant complied with the transaction. This process is mandated by Federal law for banks that are regulated by the Government. In a case where materials were ordered and never delivered, the bank is not going to allow the merchant to keep the money. It is an open and shut case.

waverly51 06-25-2021 08:36 AM

Concrete Doctor
 
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Originally Posted by noslices1 (Post 1964663)
Lance Fanthorpe @ The Concrete Doctor did a fantastic job on my driveway and sidewalk at a very reasonable price.

Do you have a phone number? Can’t find on internet

Hiltongrizz11 06-25-2021 08:44 AM

Clearly you don't know about lawsuits. You act as it's simple and easy and a guarantee. Number one proving it is difficult number two collecting on it is almost impossible. Good luck with that

Pegamyheart 06-25-2021 08:58 AM

Yes, I was a dufus, a rare occasion, because I practice due dilligence usually. We at the same time were selling our rental next door and I was really busy. Lesson learned to not let my guard down. Thanks for your response.

Pegamyheart 06-25-2021 09:00 AM

Definitely not cheap.

Pegamyheart 06-25-2021 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by waverly51 (Post 1964842)
do you have a phone number? Can’t find on internet

603-673-1750

Heyitsrick 06-25-2021 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1964579)
Maybe she wouldn't start without a deposit, but a reputable contractor would. I would never pay a deposit in advance. But, if I did, it would only be for custom materials, and charged to a credit card that I could dispute if the work was not performed.

I find comments like yours quite curious. What makes a consumer reputable, vs. a contractor being reputable? Why should I - as a contractor - put up potentially thousands of dollars in materials needed for a job in the hopes that my "reputable" customer is going to come through at job's end with the agreed upon costs of the job? Some consumers might just be well-versed in the fine art of being a b@llbuster, finding nit-picky reasons to decline paying for a contractor's job just to get a cheaper price in the end. Ah, just the costs of doing business, right?

I'm not a contractor, by the way. But where I come from, everyone's got to have skin in the game. That means you (and I) put up money in advance for, say, half of the job's cost, and the contractor doesn't get paid in full until the job is completed in an agreed upon manner.

There are risks on both ends of the deal, not just on one side. That's fair. What are the consequences of a contractor not following through? There are legal and social media repercussions. Does anyone think "Trish" is going to benefit from the OP's post here on what happened? I don't. Can the OP also file legal complaints? Absolutely.

As far as the customer is concerned, due diligence is a must. Sure, anyone can have a bad experience even when local reviews/ratings on a contractor's work are great. But for the most part, these reviews should normally be prologue on what to expect in the end. Don't use a contractor for personality reasons. Find out in advance who they've done work for, and see if you can contact the people who had the work done.


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