Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 992895)

So glad they got those miserable thugs....now for the rest who scare me....... there and here...

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 992909)

Don't be scared of all Muslims. There are only a few extremists among them who want to harm others. You can say the same about the other religions like Christians and Jews.

There are plenty of Muslims that work in The Villages as our physicians and there is an Islam center on Hwy 27 about 30 minutes from The Villages.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 992892)

What Fox Won't Show You: Muslim Leaders Are Condemning The Paris Terror Attack | Research | Media Matters for America

This shows what some are saying.

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 992909)

Don't be scared of all Muslims. There are only a few extremists among them who want to harm others. You can say the same about the other religions like Christians and Jews.

There are plenty of Muslims that work in The Villages as our physicians and there is an Islam center on Hwy 27 about 30 minutes from The Villages.

Originally Posted by onslowe (Post 992941)

We are talking about religion based attacks. Spin doctoring can fashion it as 'political' or only vaguely and aberrant religion, but still it is, when the smoke and mirrors of the love everybody segment clears, a retaliatory and violent religion with 7th century values and behaviors.

Please realize that Media Matters, a link above, is a "progressive political" group - as in left wing - not some sort of herald of truth.) The effort to cite it is intellectually honest and worthy… the group and its founder, David Brock, are not.

Is there not an action akin to public excommunication aty least among the moderate Muslims. Cannot these moderates publicly cough up these hate filled co-religionists by even demonstrating against the known hate teaching mosques and schools? And yes, that dirty little word, informing and not decrying those who do? These would go a long way in making a justifiably sceptical world less doubtful of all Muslim intent to live as peaceful people in countries that have their existing cultures and laws in place.

On another point from above, please let's not trivialize our reaction to this horror with the familiar 'red herring' device of "Let's not forget about (the 'Yellow Peril' in the post above.) It is wrong to try to lessen the importance of this event by saying "The beat goes on." It is neither valid, nor relevant and just does not fit because it's not helpful. It's as intellectually dishonest and lazy as Rosie O'Donnell yelling "What about the Crusades?" once on a discussion on "The View." A device, false, ill fitting, and completely not consistent with honest discourse.

Muslim actions will speak far louder than platitudes from Muslim journalists.

Do something about cleaning up your own backyards - here and abroad.

Originally Posted by Rags123 (Post 992944)

These posts, to me, are part of the "make them feel guilty" group of thinking. They want to make you feel guilty for how you feel. They KNOW very well that you are not alluding to what they refer to.....BUT, whatever it is, it fits to use this old way of turning it on you. It is the trademark of any discussion on race or ethnicity...YOU are the bad guy because of how you think and therefore, whether spoken or unspoken, you are a (fill in the blank) These posts offer nothing but trying to add the guilt.

PS....notice how quickly some turn this to right versus left as soon as possible. Next step is your correcting their posts become an attack and reported as such. Familiar game plan

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 992909)

Don't be scared of all Muslims. There are only a few extremists among them who want to harm others. You can say the same about the other religions like Christians and Jews.

There are plenty of Muslims that work in The Villages as our physicians and there is an Islam center on Hwy 27 about 30 minutes from The Villages.

Originally Posted by onslowe (Post 992941)

We are talking about religion based attacks. Spin doctoring can fashion it as 'political' or only vaguely and aberrant religion, but still it is, when the smoke and mirrors of the love everybody segment clears, a retaliatory and violent religion with 7th century values and behaviors.

Please realize that Media Matters, a link above, is a "progressive political" group - as in left wing - not some sort of herald of truth.) The effort to cite it is intellectually honest and worthy… the group and its founder, David Brock, are not.

Is there not an action akin to public excommunication at least among the moderate Muslims. Cannot these moderates publicly cough up these hate filled co-religionists by even demonstrating against the known hate teaching mosques and schools? And yes, that dirty little word, informing and not decrying those who do? These would go a long way in making a justifiably sceptical world less doubtful of all Muslim intent to live as peaceful people in countries that have their existing cultures and laws in place.

On another point from above, please let's not trivialize our reaction to this horror with the familiar 'red herring' device of "Let's not forget about (the 'Yellow Peril' in the post above.) It is wrong to try to lessen the importance of this event by saying "The beat goes on." It is neither valid, nor relevant and just does not fit because it's not helpful. It's as intellectually dishonest and lazy as Rosie O'Donnell yelling "What about the Crusades?" once on a discussion on "The View." A device, false, ill fitting, and completely not consistent with honest discourse.

Muslim actions will speak far louder than platitudes from Muslim journalists.

Do something about cleaning up your own backyards - here and abroad.

Originally Posted by Rags123 (Post 992873)

I dont see that big of a difference HOWEVER....\

MY point was that the police in France cannot perform so well without the arms required to do so. We, the USA, found it comfy to criticize that in Missouri. They were defending their city from being totally destroyed by law breakers and arsonists with guns

The police, in case you had not noticed, are the front lines of this war, and we better soon wake up to that fact in this country.

It appears the French police did a great job and I applaud them, but how can you forget the hypocrisy in the USA !

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 992984)

Thank you for the fair assessment of my intentions. Anyone who reads my posts on a regular basis knows I am a moderate and will vote as my research guides me. That can and has lead me in a variety of directions.

I now can see why the Political Thread can be used for gamesmanship. It happens a lot on TOTV.

There are more modern readings of the Muslim religion but it sure has been weaponized a great deal in the past couple of decades.

Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 992985)

The French municipal police do not generally carry firearms.

Originally Posted by Rags123 (Post 992987)

While I totally agree with you about "gamesmanship" I am sure we are not working with the same definition.

Seems to me...someone who absolutely says publicly do not give me any right wing news sites or Fox, then cites of all the site available, the most left wing site possible whose ONLY purpose is to refute those sites you openly and with great fervor eliminated from any substance, AND THEN proclaim to be moderate is interesting at best.

It is ok to be whatever.....but the lack of consistency and the refuting of one sides view does not, to me anyway, say moderate.

But again, the most striking thing is to make this a right versus left thing...that is what strikes me as odd. I might add again, that YOU are the one who completely discounted anything from the right.