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stanley 04-21-2021 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1933325)
The removal of the overpass has been published several times, along with the new road configuration and the new traffic light. In order to remove the over pass there will need to be temporary travel lanes installed, hence the current mess.

We'll see.

Stu from NYC 04-21-2021 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1933325)
The removal of the overpass has been published several times, along with the new road configuration and the new traffic light. In order to remove the over pass there will need to be temporary travel lanes installed, hence the current mess.

Sound like temporary will be with us for quite awhile

villageuser 04-22-2021 05:16 AM

The information you’re requesting: https://www.**************.com/2020/...-through-2023/

By the way, we moved here in 2002. They were then working on US Hwy 441, but down by Leesburg. I think that project took over 5 years to do. It amazes us how long projects take around here to complete.

mlmarr1 04-22-2021 06:11 AM

Progress is always a mess.... gee county could've done this during snowbird season.. FYI ... the bridge over 25 is coming down.. find a new way south...like 466A to 441/27..

almyers 04-22-2021 06:23 AM

They are constructing additional lanes to the bridge.

stanley 04-22-2021 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1933325)
The removal of the overpass has been published several times, along with the new road configuration and the new traffic light. In order to remove the over pass there will need to be temporary travel lanes installed, hence the current mess.

I stand corrected
238395-5 U.S. 441 Widening from Lake Ella Road to Avenida Central

I'm really curious as to how they are going to do this since they are shoring up the ramps structurally heading south. If that's temporary that's a lot of work. I'm not saying that it doesn't need to be done, just curious as to how.

NoMoSno 04-22-2021 07:23 AM

Bridge is coming down. Has been planned for years.
2+ year project.
Being done to create more retail space in the adjacent land next to Ulta.

stadry 04-22-2021 07:54 AM

[QUOTE=CFrance;1933310]I said nothing about wanting it to stop. I was commenting on rhere are way s to speed completion - it ts called $$$$$$$$,, bonuses for earlycompletion ahear of contract time it worked wellfor us in sc 2yrs ago!!! dangle a few milliondollarsin front of a contractor & watch out!

Neils 04-22-2021 08:47 AM

[QUOTE=stadry;1933517]
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1933310)
I said nothing about wanting it to stop. I was commenting on rhere are way s to speed completion - it ts called $$$$$$$$,, bonuses for earlycompletion ahear of contract time it worked wellfor us in sc 2yrs ago!!! dangle a few milliondollarsin front of a contractor & watch out!

Or a penalty if not completed on time. Save taxpayers money

thevee 04-22-2021 08:58 AM

I think they intend to temporarily re-route north bound traffic onto the overpass that they bolstered with a bulkhead and south bound traffic onto the road they are installing next to the bulkheaded overpass. This gives them the freedom to remove the other overpass (current northbound traffic), Once the overpass is removed, they will probably create new north and south lanes in place of the removed overpass. They then would have the freedom to remove the second overpass (with the bulkhead). Just a guess.

ohiosbestus 04-22-2021 12:25 PM

We will start to call the 441 or the villages LITTLE NEW YORK CITY I also heard that BJ's is building a new store next to Lowes in the vacant field just south of Lowes. That traffic light at Lowes on 441 will be a new nightmare when it is finished......

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-22-2021 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1933310)
I said nothing about wanting it to stop. I was commenting on how long it takes them to do the construction.

The construction is ongoing, and will continue to be ongoing indefinitely, as long as developers continue to develop.

They only had that section up by Home Depot diverted on the southbound side for the past couple of weeks. Before that, it was the northbound side.

I imagine they'll finish that part of it within the next couple of weeks. But they're laying pipe under the road. As they say in business: you can have it quickly, correctly, or inexpensively. Pick any two.

Aloha1 04-22-2021 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 1933215)
They (the government, I suppose) are certainly never happy with 441. They were working on it when we moved here and now they are working on it again. Are they still planning to tear down the overpass over Hwy. 25 and replace that with a regular intersection?

If they were, why have they spent millions shoring up the west side of it?

60North 04-22-2021 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1933481)
I stand corrected
238395-5 U.S. 441 Widening from Lake Ella Road to Avenida Central

I'm really curious as to how they are going to do this since they are shoring up the ramps structurally heading south. If that's temporary that's a lot of work. I'm not saying that it doesn't need to be done, just curious as to how.

Thanks for the website link. It answers the questions without the guess work. It is amazing this particular project started in 2005 with a projected Construction Start Date of Early Spring 2020.

NoMoSno 04-22-2021 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thevee (Post 1933551)
I think they intend to temporarily re-route north bound traffic onto the overpass that they bolstered with a bulkhead and south bound traffic onto the road they are installing next to the bulkheaded overpass. This gives them the freedom to remove the other overpass (current northbound traffic), Once the overpass is removed, they will probably create new north and south lanes in place of the removed overpass. They then would have the freedom to remove the second overpass (with the bulkhead). Just a guess.

That is exactly what will be happening.
It was discussed at the county com. meeting a few years ago.


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