Adios Chinese EVs Adios Chinese EVs - Page 4 - Talk of The Villages Florida

Adios Chinese EVs

Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #46  
Old 05-05-2024, 01:44 PM
jimjamuser jimjamuser is offline
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 9,862
Thanks: 6,857
Thanked 2,237 Times in 1,805 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bealman View Post
Hard to believe anything union made could be affordable.
The price of EVs would come down if more people purchased them. More DEMAND for EVs would make for bigger factory assembly lines, which would increase production efficiency and bring prices down. Battery technology will improve in the future and so will more charging stations. EVs have many, many advantages and saying things bad about them is like saying, "stop the FUTURE".
  #47  
Old 05-05-2024, 01:50 PM
jimjamuser jimjamuser is offline
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 9,862
Thanks: 6,857
Thanked 2,237 Times in 1,805 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianL99 View Post
Ford and everyone else is losing a small fortune on EV's. They have no choice but to make them & them dump them. Without EV's, they can't meet CAFE requirements.
20 % OF NEW CAR sales in EUROPE are EVs. The US is at 7% I feeel that we are the backward ones.
  #48  
Old 05-05-2024, 01:53 PM
biker1 biker1 is offline
Sage
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 3,638
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1,228 Times in 707 Posts
Default

Please tell us again which EV you own.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimjamuser View Post
20 % OF NEW CAR sales in EUROPE are EVs. The US is at 7% I feeel that we are the backward ones.
  #49  
Old 05-05-2024, 01:59 PM
jimjamuser jimjamuser is offline
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 9,862
Thanks: 6,857
Thanked 2,237 Times in 1,805 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by biker1 View Post
Please tell us again which EV you own.
Actually, I have the maximum that I can afford and for the spaces that I have to park them.
  #50  
Old 05-05-2024, 03:10 PM
Vermilion Villager Vermilion Villager is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 792
Thanks: 288
Thanked 587 Times in 311 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianL99 View Post
Student Loan Forgiveness will cost the USA $400 BILLION over 30 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Biden's student loan forgiveness plan will cost $400 billion, budget office says : NPR

Not FOX news. Not CSPAN.
1. Yes....$400 billion in lost PROFITS! It's not like the government is going to be writing a $400 billion check. 2. The current student loan forgiveness proposal is not what the CBPO is referencing from 2022 (2years ago).
It's nice to see that people are upset about certain things. As long as you are there in that outrage, please weigh in on your thoughts that the government gives $1 trillion every year in subsidies (lost income to the US) to an oil industry that earn $4 trillion in profits?

Question: When are we getting back to the EV debate????
  #51  
Old 05-05-2024, 03:31 PM
Caymus Caymus is online now
Gold member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 1,255
Thanks: 22
Thanked 1,136 Times in 557 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager View Post
1. Yes....$400 billion in lost PROFITS! It's not like the government is going to be writing a $400 billion check. 2. The current student loan forgiveness proposal is not what the CBPO is referencing from 2022 (2years ago).
It's nice to see that people are upset about certain things. As long as you are there in that outrage, please weigh in on your thoughts that the government gives $1 trillion every year in subsidies (lost income to the US) to an oil industry that earn $4 trillion in profits?

Question: When are we getting back to the EV debate????
So why does a company like Chevron have a higher tax rate than one like Amazon?
  #52  
Old 05-05-2024, 05:44 PM
keepsake keepsake is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 263
Thanks: 3
Thanked 102 Times in 60 Posts
Default

Doesn't some of the blame belong on the USA's EPA ? They can make the lithium batteries in China but not the USA. China must be polluting another planet I guess.
  #53  
Old 05-05-2024, 05:47 PM
Topspinmo's Avatar
Topspinmo Topspinmo is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 15,117
Thanks: 7,601
Thanked 6,251 Times in 3,223 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimjamuser View Post
20 % OF NEW CAR sales in EUROPE are EVs. The US is at 7% I feeel that we are the backward ones.
Europeans don’t have to drive that far, so it practical in most cases.
  #54  
Old 05-05-2024, 05:50 PM
Topspinmo's Avatar
Topspinmo Topspinmo is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 15,117
Thanks: 7,601
Thanked 6,251 Times in 3,223 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimjamuser View Post
I disagree with both.

So you have student loan that you made choice to get and agreed to payoff?
  #55  
Old 05-05-2024, 05:54 PM
Topspinmo's Avatar
Topspinmo Topspinmo is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 15,117
Thanks: 7,601
Thanked 6,251 Times in 3,223 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caymus View Post
So why does a company like Chevron have a higher tax rate than one like Amazon?
And why does government make more on gallon gas than chevron? Why does Amazon get breaks??? $$$$$$$ donations maybe?
  #56  
Old 05-05-2024, 05:59 PM
Topspinmo's Avatar
Topspinmo Topspinmo is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 15,117
Thanks: 7,601
Thanked 6,251 Times in 3,223 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimjamuser View Post
Older people like in The Village should be aware that allergies and lung diseases are intensified by bad air. ICE engine vehicles and golf carts product BAD air and Electric vehicles do NOT. If bad health could be QUANTIFIABLE then people could see the problems of ICE vehicles. We ALL want more health and longer life, but NOT everyone sees the connection negatively for ICE vehicles.
.....There actually may be scientific studies that show longer life with the better air from E-vehicles. I am sure that there are studies about people living near factory smokestacks living shorter lives.
Have you heard of the Catholic converter
  #57  
Old 05-05-2024, 06:31 PM
bmcgowan13 bmcgowan13 is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2024
Posts: 134
Thanks: 168
Thanked 119 Times in 51 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tophcfa View Post
It’s a good first step, but it would be way better if ALL EV tax subsidies were eliminated. If EV’s can sell solely based on their stand alone economics, then they have a useful place in the marketplace. Forcing sals based on taxpayer subsidies and government mandates creates inefficiencies and diverts important private research and development dollars away from potentially better technology alternatives. And why should taxpayers that prioritize vehicle range and performance (towing capacity, 4WD, ground clearance, etc…) have to subsidize the EV crowd?
The government is trying to protect/promote US industries -- and their workers.

We (the US taxpayer) subsidized/bailed-out Harley Davidson, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Bear-Sterns (2008), Chrysler (1980), the Savings and Loan industry (1989), US Banks (200B), US Airlines (2001), 2008 TARP (700B!), American International Group Inc., (AIG) 2013, Airlines/COVID (2020), etc.

The government subsidies to promote their country's business. The Chinese government (and all US automakers) realize the future is in electric vehicles. The Chinese government subsidies a *lot* of Chinese cars, Sheetrock, steel and businesses--for a pragmatic reason. It makes good business sense. The Chinese spend up to 5% of their entire GDP in subsidies.

I think this has become pretty much a common business practice for businesses nowadays... It helps the US company stay ahead of foreign competition...
  #58  
Old 05-05-2024, 08:02 PM
JMintzer's Avatar
JMintzer JMintzer is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Where Eagles Dare to Soar...
Posts: 11,954
Thanks: 486
Thanked 8,980 Times in 4,717 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimjamuser View Post
20 % OF NEW CAR sales in EUROPE are EVs. The US is at 7% I feeel that we are the backward ones.
The US isn't Europe. Completely different transportation issues, distances traveled, etc...
__________________
Most things I worry about
Never happen anyway...

-Tom Petty
  #59  
Old 05-05-2024, 08:05 PM
JMintzer's Avatar
JMintzer JMintzer is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Where Eagles Dare to Soar...
Posts: 11,954
Thanks: 486
Thanked 8,980 Times in 4,717 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimjamuser View Post
Actually, I have the maximum that I can afford and for the spaces that I have to park them.
So that's Zero, right?
__________________
Most things I worry about
Never happen anyway...

-Tom Petty
  #60  
Old 05-05-2024, 08:08 PM
Shipping up to Boston Shipping up to Boston is offline
Platinum member
Join Date: Feb 2024
Location: South Harmon Institute of Technology
Posts: 1,972
Thanks: 2
Thanked 925 Times in 561 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JMintzer View Post
So that's Zero, right?
Do as I say.....not as I do?
Closed Thread

Tags
chinese, evs, tax, adios, dollars


You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:13 PM.