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John Mayes 10-12-2023 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2264837)
But that doesn’t plug in (though there have been fires in “plain” hybrids too)
You’re right, the MHEV does not plug in but there have been fire concerns with the technology. They conducted a recall earlier for fire cases.

ThirdOfFive 10-12-2023 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2264783)
Many moons ago when I was working in farming, we used to hold burning paper roll over air intake on freezing days when starting diesel tractors.
Used to put some gas in diesel as well, to stop it turning to gel when freezing.
Both 'tricks' worked well.
We used to put in a fuel additive the night before a cold snap was expected and then run the machine for about 10 minutes to make sure all of the fuel was treated. I did know some folks who used gasoline and apparently that worked for them.

Caymus 10-12-2023 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by John Mayes (Post 2264844)
You’re right, the MHEV does not plug in but there have been fire concerns with the technology. They conducted a recall earlier for fire cases.

Do they have EV type lithium batteries?

Two Bills 10-12-2023 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2264805)
Fuel additive to prevent gelling, way better than putting gas in the diesel. Gas can damage a diesel engine.
I am talking about back in the early 60's.
Farmer I started with had tractors dating back to the 40's.
No way would he have spent a dime on 'Fancy Dan' additives when gas had always worked.
The place, was held together with baling twine as well, but the mean, cantankerous old $£%$&&! new more about livestock than anyone else, including the vet.
That's why I worked for him. Just for his knowledge.

John Mayes 10-12-2023 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2264859)
Do they have EV type lithium batteries?
Yes, 48V lithium.

Two Bills 10-12-2023 03:08 PM
Diesel is the winner according to BBC.

What caused the Luton Airport fire and what happens next? - BBC News

Topspinmo 10-12-2023 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2264849)
We used to put in a fuel additive the night before a cold snap was expected and then run the machine for about 10 minutes to make sure all of the fuel was treated. I did know some folks who used gasoline and apparently that worked for them.
Gasoline dangerous in diesel can cause engine to run away rpm’s. If get too much.

Topspinmo 10-12-2023 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2264731)
They're saying maybe 1,500 cars have been damaged. What a nightmare. Also, I saw they said some perhaps undamaged cars may be lost due to the parking garage needing to be demolished & recovering the cars might be too dangerous.
If that many vehicles was damaged IMO would be hard to pin point cause unless someone was there when it started.

I am surprised we don’t have more gasoline related fires now that most all vehicles are high pressure fuel injected.

CoachKandSportsguy 10-12-2023 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2264925)
There is no cause, there is just a description of the events, with two "thought to be"s assumptions.
The unknown cause was clearly stated in the article, however diesel doesn't not spontaneously combust, so still focused on the battery

Bill14564 10-12-2023 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2264960)
There is no cause, there is just a description of the events, with two "thought to be"s assumptions.
The unknown cause was clearly stated in the article, however diesel doesn't not spontaneously combust, so still focused on the battery
Yet the only battery mentioned was the 12V system.

There is little or no knowledge yet of what actually caused the fire. But, that includes no reason to suspect that it was in any way related to charging or lithium batteries.

Blackbird45 10-13-2023 04:41 AM
Enough already, I do not own an EV, but this is getting boring.
This subject is an ongoing at lease, once a month someone will come on here and blame EVs for everything short of JFK's assignation.

sdeikenberry 10-13-2023 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2264652)
VIDEO: Luton airport plunged into chaos as massive fire suspends all flights -

However, turns out that it was a range rover hybrid charging. Lithium ion not the best to leave charging
Turns out the author didn't bother to check his references. Actually, the fire started with a diesel vehicle, and no EV was the source, according to the fire department:

Bedfordshire Fire and Rescue Service revealed on Wednesday morning the cause of the blaze was a diesel car. “We don't believe it was an electric vehicle,” Andrew Hopkinson, chief fire officer for Bedfordshire Fire and Rescue Service, said.

Captainpd 10-13-2023 05:19 AM
Not sure
 
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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2264733)
Yep.

Back UpNort, 50-odd years ago now, I spent some time as a logger. Not uncommon to go to work in January when the temp. was -30 and even lower. Our equipment was all diesel, and often as not it didn't want to start in those temps, so we'd have to warm them up before starting them. One accepted way was to build a little fire under the oil pan. Took maybe 1/2 hour at most and they'd start right up. You'd NEVER want to do that with a gasoline engine.
Not sure what you did 50 years ago has to do with this post.

Captainpd 10-13-2023 05:21 AM
What
 
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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2264783)
Many moons ago when I was working in farming, we used to hold burning paper roll over air intake on freezing days when starting diesel tractors.
Used to put some gas in diesel as well, to stop it turning to gel when freezing.
Both 'tricks' worked well.
And what does this have to do with the fire at the airport. Thread drift at its best

Eclas 10-13-2023 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 2264996)
Enough already, I do not own an EV, but this is getting boring.
This subject is an ongoing at lease, once a month someone will come on here and blame EVs for everything short of JFK's assignation.
Pretty sure Lee Harvey Oswald drove an experimental EV to the book building.


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