[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

As will everyone.

That is likely the very first thing Alec did, judging from the phraseology he has used to describe her death. Never once from what I have read has he said anything close to "I shot her but it was an accident as I was told the gun was cold.'"or "I accidentally killed her". He just says something to the effect that a tragic accident occurred on the set. The reality is he killed her.

[manaboutown]

Alec Baldwin '''Rust''' shooting warrants suggest violations of industry firearms standards, documents show | Fox News

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

But a "cold gun" will have neither in the cylinder... It should be EMPTY...

Once established that it is not empty, THEN you can check for live vs blank ammo...

I thought a "cold gun" was loaded with blanks. That's how much I don't know about firearms. If a "cold gun" is empty then what do they call a gun that is loaded with only blanks?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I thought a "cold gun" was loaded with blanks. That's how much I don't know about firearms. If a "cold gun" is empty then what do they call a gun that is loaded with only blanks?

Not what I learned. A "Cold Range" means that every gun is unloaded and placed on the table in front of you...

On a movie set, a gun should NEVER be loaded with real ammo, so... there is only blanks vs nothing...

[manaboutown]

Halyna Hutchins family retains legal counsel, will reportedly file wrongful death lawsuit | Fox News

Alec Baldwin'''s '''Rust''' costume designer Terese Davis says Halyna Hutchins was '''brightest light''' on set | Fox News

[jdulej]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

That is likely the very first thing Alec did, judging from the phraseology he has used to describe her death. Never once from what I have read has he said anything close to "I shot her but it was an accident as I was told the gun was cold.'"or "I accidentally killed her". He just says something to the effect that a tragic accident occurred on the set. The reality is he killed her.

Unless you were there you really cannot know what the reality was. What you know is what you have read filtered by the biases of each writer/reporter. It seems likely that you are correct in your assumption but the wheels of justice need to finish their job.

[manaboutown]

"The situation for Alec Baldwin continues to get worse by the day.

Serge Svetnoy, the key gaffer for “Rust,” is suing Baldwin and others involved with the movie following the tragic killing of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.

Svetnoy alleges in his lawsuit that the scene that Baldwin was shooting on that fateful day did not require him to “fire” the weapon."

From: Crew Member Suing Alec Baldwin Drops Potential Game-Changing Claim About The Gun - Conservative Brief

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

"The situation for Alec Baldwin continues to get worse by the day.

Serge Svetnoy, the key gaffer for “Rust,” is suing Baldwin and others involved with the movie following the tragic killing of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.

Svetnoy alleges in his lawsuit that the scene that Baldwin was shooting on that fateful day did not require him to “fire” the weapon."

He filed a general-negligence complaint. I did not see a $$$ amount.

[manaboutown]

Anything to get off the hook I guess. What an asinine statement from Alec! Nolte: Sheriff to Alec Baldwin — 'Guns Don't Just Go Off'

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by billethkid

I decided there is not enough info to comment....thread deleted.

Billy..................pretty good thread.

Sit back and enjoy the ride.

[valuemkt]

What would you expect from this jerk .. Makes fun of others .. is irresponsible.. and when in trouble DENY DENY DENY .. sound familiar ?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

It would take less than 5 seconds for an actor to open the cylinder and glance at the rounds loaded.
I would guess Baldwin will do this in the future as well as all actors in the future.
Basic firearm safety 101 would have saved a life.

Several actors have been killed over the decades by improperly loaded firearm or intentionally loaded firearms? Brandon lee come to mind.


First you would have pop the rounds out and look see it there was lead bullet or if they were blanks. Or look down from barrel end of 6 shooter. How many actor’s could tell the difference? They hire people to insure guns are set up for scene.

‘The Crow’ and Other Movies and TV Shows With Deaths on Set - The New York Times

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Billy..................pretty good thread.

Sit back and enjoy the ride.

You could say that about ever thread.

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Several actors have been killed over the decades by improperly loaded firearm or intentionally loaded firearms? Brandon lee come to mind.


First you would have pop the rounds out and look see it there was lead bullet or if they were blanks. Or look down from barrel end of 6 shooter. How many actor’s could tell the difference? They hire people to insure guns are set up for scene.

Maybe it's time the industry changes it's protocol.
Doing so may save lives.

[retiredguy123]

It's interesting that Baldwin now says that the gun went off, but he did not pull the trigger. If that argument prevails, couldn't every person charged with a shooting claim the same thing? How could you ever prove that someone pulled the trigger?