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Steve & Deanna 08-21-2014 07:28 AM

I would like to see and hear outrage coming from the peaceful Muslim communities.

Rags123 08-21-2014 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve & Deanna (Post 926402)
I would like to see and hear outrage coming from the peaceful Muslim communities.


Well, I would like to see our country maintain some concern over this kind of thing.

We express our shock and dismay, but we got over Daniel Pearl...we don't even talk about the "heads on sticks" displayed in Syria this past month

"Al-Qaeda Behead 10 Prisoners & Mount Their Heads On Spikes In Syria"

Al-Qaeda Behead 10 Prisoners & Mount Their Heads On Spikes In Syria

There are stories of beheading children and placing their heads on spikes throughout Syria, but I wont bore you with the details. These stories are difficult to see or hear about in our country, but they are true....pics, stories and eyewitness account available.

Point is..I wish WE would get upset.......this is not new....and it is not going to stop.

This is not something that should take over our life, but to just toss this stuff aside as this country has been doing is wrong in my opinion....it should be part of our policy to address this.

Villages PL 08-21-2014 11:13 AM

No one should worry about seeing the video of the beheading because it has been deleted from the internet. I heard this was in progress last night while listening to the radio. I just did some searches to see if it was actually done and I could not find any video of it. Although, there are about 4 or 5 pictures leading up to, but not including, the actual beheading.

Am I wrong about this? I don't think so.

kittygilchrist 08-21-2014 03:30 PM

Pentagon Press Conference
 
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Originally Posted by Rags123 (Post 926413)
Well, I would like to see our country maintain some concern over this kind of thing.

We express our shock and dismay, but we got over Daniel Pearl...we don't even talk about the "heads on sticks" displayed in Syria this past month

"Al-Qaeda Behead 10 Prisoners & Mount Their Heads On Spikes In Syria"

Al-Qaeda Behead 10 Prisoners & Mount Their Heads On Spikes In Syria

There are stories of beheading children and placing their heads on spikes throughout Syria, but I wont bore you with the details. These stories are difficult to see or hear about in our country, but they are true....pics, stories and eyewitness account available.

Point is..I wish WE would get upset.......this is not new....and it is not going to stop.

This is not something that should take over our life, but to just toss this stuff aside as this country has been doing is wrong in my opinion....it should be part of our policy to address this.

Rags, I hope you saw the Press conference today from the Pentagon with Hegel and Dempsey. Both of them "get it" with regard to the international threat from Isis. It gave me some hope that not everyone in Washington is asleep at the wheel.

Dempsey called the agenda of Isis apocalyptic, end of days, and religious. Hagel seemed shocked to be asked if they were comparable to 911 terrorists, and listed the many ways Isis exceeds any previous terrorist threat to this country as well as there being an immediate threat to Europe.

As I understand it, their goal is to take over many of the currently Muslim nations as well as Israel and to destroy anyone who disagrees with their ideology.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, anybody who feels like it can get a hero's welcome walking across our border.... Let's do a round of golf.

Walt. 08-21-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 926690)
Rags, I hope you saw the Press conference today from the Pentagon with Hegel and Dempsey. Both of them "get it" with regard to the international threat from Isis. It gave me some hope that not everyone in Washington is asleep at the wheel.

Dempsey called the agenda of Isis apocalyptic, end of days, and religious. Hagel seemed shocked to be asked if they were comparable to 911 terrorists, and listed the many ways Isis exceeds any previous terrorist threat to this country well as there being an immediate threat to Europe...

Nothing to worry about. I think this situation will be settled shortly. I understand that we have prepared TWO red lines. As Isis is reeling from the red lines we are preparing no less than 4 progressively harsh tweets to be delivered within a week. If there's anything left of Isis they will then be subjected to The Ice Bucket Challenge.

TexaninVA 08-21-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BarryRX (Post 925754)
Our government is in the process of verifying if the video is authentic. I didn't link to the video because if someone decides they want to watch it, they can easily do a google search. These people are the worst of the worst.

Everyone is horrified etc but, in the best of American traditions, we will not actually do anything until ISIS strikes us here at home--which they are guaranteed to do by the way. Right now, our ostrich / head in the sand policy lets us pretend we're doing something when we're not really solving the problem.

Ultimately, US ground troops will have to go back to Iraq and eliminate (ie a nice word for saying "kill") ISIS root and branch. The Rules of Engagement will also have to be drastically overhauled to actually let us win. When the enemy is terrified of American response, they will stop. Right now, except for the occassiainol air strike, I think ISIS is amused by the impotence of America.

Too bad we didn't keep the 20,000 troops behind ... this all would have been avoided.

Rags123 08-21-2014 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 926690)
Rags, I hope you saw the Press conference today from the Pentagon with Hegel and Dempsey. Both of them "get it" with regard to the international threat from Isis. It gave me some hope that not everyone in Washington is asleep at the wheel.

Dempsey called the agenda of Isis apocalyptic, end of days, and religious. Hagel seemed shocked to be asked if they were comparable to 911 terrorists, and listed the many ways Isis exceeds any previous terrorist threat to this country well as there being an immediate threat to Europe.

As I understand it, their goal is to take over many of the currently Muslim nations as well as Israel and to destroy anyone who disagrees with their ideology.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, anybody who feels like it can get a hero's welcome walking across our border.... Let's do a round of golf.

I am sorry for being so caustic and aggressive last evening and will cool it.

My problem was posters acting as if this was not a known factor, albeit called a junior varsity. Acting as if they are hearing this for the first time..it just frustrated me, but the media, et al do not like to make waves.

I do not think this is reason to become paranoid, but because a fraction who has the microphone keeps ignoring things or downplaying them to serve their purpose does not make it so. My intent is not political in anyway, and on the assumption that many posters on here have children and grandchildren, they should be very aware of this group, the entire middle east, and our policy toward it. NO before it is said...we cannot fight everyones battles, but this world is extremely small compared to when we were younger...it is faster and more deadly.

When I see our choosing open borders while folks in the mid east tell you that they are going to come and bomb you, and the laissez faire attitude about all of those issues, it not only concerns me....it scares me.

People who behead children and put their heads on sticks to display.....they are not going to worry about any of us on any scale and will do whatever it takes to kill.

But you are right....surely not serious enough to interrupt our golf game....there are many more serious things for us to worry about like......

Thanks for your post....it is comforting to know that some are paying attention to what is going on and not going on.

TexaninVA 08-21-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Walt. (Post 926710)
Nothing to worry about. I think this situation will be settled shortly. I understand that we have prepared TWO red lines. As Isis is reeling from the red lines we are preparing no less than 4 progressively harsh tweets to be delivered within a week. If there's anything left of Isis they will then be subjected to The Ice Bucket Challenge.

Good grief ... please anything but the tweets!! That is so fierce I fear it may cause ISIS to stain their shorts or something. How about if we just issue stern (I mean REALLY stern) diplomatic protest via Iran or someone?

TexaninVA 08-21-2014 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve & Deanna (Post 926402)
I would like to see and hear outrage coming from the peaceful Muslim communities.

My advice is ... don't hold your breath. I've been waiting for that since 9/11 and, with a few courageous exceptions, the silence is both continual and deafening.

We should not kid ourselves ... there is a high percentage (IMHO maybe 10-20% at least??) that are silently rooting for the Caliphate to succeed. This desire goes back centuries and settles a lot of old scores dating back to the 15th century when they were kicked out of Spain etc.

Moderator 08-22-2014 06:56 AM

The topic is ISIS and the death of James Foley.

Please address the topic and avoid political innuendos and snipes or the thread will be closed.

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karostay 08-22-2014 07:18 AM

We should arm each country equally in the Middle East with 1/2 dozen short range rockets armed with nuclear war heads
Pull out troops out sit back watch the show

wendyquat 08-22-2014 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 926942)
We should arm each country equally in the Middle East with 1/2 dozen short range rockets armed with nuclear war heads
Pull out troops out sit back watch the show

Wow, best solution yet! Me fears they would all aim those nukes our way!

Madelaine Amee 08-22-2014 09:30 AM

Selling Oil for $25 Barrel
 
Did anyone else see or hear this small piece of reporting last evening? Evidently Isis are selling oil for $25 a barrel. This, in itself, could create some interesting scenarios in the middle east. If they are flooding the market with cheap oil what do you think the rest of the oil producers are going to do;; i.e. OPEC - are they likely to allow these people to saturate the market with cheap fuel while they are waiting for their $100 a barrel? Maybe this will cause the rest of the Arab nations to start thinking sanely and stop thinking it's a Western problem. This group is out to bring down the whole world, not just us. It was also reported that Saudi Arabia have been rounding up and sentencing large numbers of terrorists (very quietly) over the last few months or so, they are obviously well aware of this problem on their door step.

BUT, unfortunately, I do think you will see us go into Syria where they got their start!

karostay 08-22-2014 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wendyquat (Post 926980)
Wow, best solution yet! Me fears they would all aim those nukes our way!

Like I said short range


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