Take their tools away is the most logical.

We’re comparing risks and it is even funnier that it isn’t considered an important factor when you think of the numbers of guns in the states and cars in the states and the death rates. Automobile deaths would be lowered dramatically if certain laws were changed but you wouldn’t want anyone to take your car away and leave you with a smart car for your lifetime.

Read Bill from the UK’s statement, you can’t stop those with intent.

Monitor mental illness is better, new tools can be found anywhere.

That the Ohio shooter was seriously mentally disturbed is clear from his now canceled Twitter account. Here are some screenshots from it. Twitter Suspends Account Allegedly Linked to Ohio Shooter | Breitbart

According to his classmates he also kept "Hit" and "Rape" lists. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...tc8lyV6OuFDFYY

You're right. Our kids and grandkids should be taught how to use and carry a gun so they won't become victims. Almost all mass shootings occur in Gun Free Zones.

Yes it is. But it is also highly unrealistic. That is locking the barn after the horses are out.

People have been killing each other since the beginning of time. They just didn’t hear about it 5 seconds after it happened and have it regurgitated for days after.

I don't agree. :ohdear: I think that all terrorists are demented and mentally ill.
I think anyone who shoots people in cold blood for whatever reason is mentally ill.

"Fame" is probably part of their sick motivation for mass shootings.

Exactly. I would like to think that gun control would solve the problem but people who are determined to kill are going to find a way to do it.

No, it's not. And the fact that you don't understand this is disheartening. Americans who committed atrocities on civilians in Vietnam were driven by hate, and not mentally ill - yet. When they came back, that's another story.

People who were led into following the Nazi regime, believing in the dogma, and committing atrocities in the name of hatred of "other" during WWII - were not mentally ill.

People who are committing atrocities now in the name of hatred of "other" are not mentally ill. Only 22% of mass shootings in the USA were committed by the mentally ill. The other 78% were NOT mentally ill. They acted out of hate and fear of "other." Those acts were driven by people of influence, who led them to the hatred and fear with words, actions, or a combination of both.

The legislative solution will ge the same as always: “thoughts and prayers”.
The legislators’ only concern is for the big donors.

Some of them. But some are just as concerned as you and I. Sometimes ALL that can be said are words of sympathy. ALL of us would like to solve these problems and each believes we have the answer. Starting new arguments and saying demeaning things to others especially things not completely accurate only relieves our own emotional "steam" for a moment. We are the wise, older ones. Many of us are not past the "define the problem" and "gather facts on the problem" part of problem solving and some people will never, ever accept that some problems can never be solved completly because of the human factor.

FINALLY, something I can disagree with you on. :)

I find "venting" no longer releases the steam, it seems to have the opposite effect and gets me and my wife more upset.

We are trying hard to avoid venting - it seems to be working. The more we try to listen to the other side and find things we can agree with, the better we feel after the conversation.