Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1669877)

How do you stop non-legal means of obtaining a gun? Has making the possession and sale of drugs illegal stopped the drug trade? Please use some common sense instead of emotion. There are checks required to purchase a firearm. All licensed gun dealers are required to perform a background check on all buyers and the buyer must pass the check.

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1669824)

Have you ever bought a gun? Under federal law you are required to have a background check done when buying a gun from a licensed dealer. In addition Florida has a 3 day waiting period after the background check before you can take possession of the firearm. Federal law prohibits people with felony convictions and people convicted of domestic violence from purchasing, owning or possessing a firearm. Many criminals obtain guns through what is called a straw purchaser. A non-felon friend, girlfriend, wife, etc. will legally purchase the gun for the felon. This is a felony itself but prosecutors very seldom prosecute the straw purchaser. Drugs are illegal but you can buy them in the smallest towns. I heard that there were a couple incidents of drugs houses here in TV. Prohibition was a disaster, there was more alcohol consumption during prohibition than before or after. Organized crime provided a product that people were willing to pay big money for. The same for drugs, crime organizations smuggle drugs into countries and make billions in profit. Make guns illegal and again organized crime will step in and provide what ever the crazies and criminals need to accomplish the deed they wish to commit. As I said earlier, we have a violence problem, lets work on that.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1669890)

I don’t know why you felt guilty when I made this statement, it was Midnight Cowgirl who suggested banning some guns may be the answer. To be honest, I didn’t read your post and really didn’t pay attention to your position. Carry on!

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1669891)

We need more lawyers suing gun manufacturers like with the tobacco companies. Them winning is a harder matter.

There are many guns that should simply be taken off the market and bought back if possible. Guns designed for the use of soldiers and really not so much for anything else.

More education about mental illness and a concentrated effort to get people to deal with it within their own families and in their communities. Same with virtual (online) and real life (person-to-person) bullying.

A lot can be done. Education and empathy for survivors/victim are key.

Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1669893)

. . . this would be one of the times where the name of the person would be helpful but I missed it.
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1669802)

Of the 86 countries where we have identified mass public shootings, the US ranks 56th per capita in its rate of attacks and 61st in mass public shooting murder rate. Norway, Finland, Switzerland and Russia all have at least 45 percent higher rates of murder from mass public shootings than the United States.

Originally Posted by Midnight Cowgirl (Post 1669898)

Emotion? EMOTION? Where do you see emotion? Any emotion is yours judging by the plethora of comments you've made in response to everyone.

You will only find some thoughts and opinion in my post and this is the second time you have quoted my same comment.

Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1669801)

How do you legislate mental illness? You know it will come out...again, the other common denominator, that the shooter, or it looks like possibly shooters, were and are wackos. I'm not going to say too much anymore on the gun "debate" , it get's nowhere here, and it's never civil.
Steve

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1669931)

Assault Weapons | Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

Ban the sales of these kind of weapons to anyone and try to buy existing ones back.

Police and the military can get them from whatever source.

That is at least something that can be done.

And start challenging the hard line approaches taken by the NRA and their supporters. Common sense measures should be sought after and not bumper sticker platitudes.

Originally Posted by Midnight Cowgirl (Post 1669807)

Yes, it IS

I am not going into gun control, but it would seem that there needs to be some form of it -- a check and balance of some type if you will, or this kind of horror will continue.

And even with some form of control, it would probably be a long time before many of the illegal forms of ownership can be controlled and/or taken off the street.
While I have my own personal thoughts, it's obviously the time is past due