Originally Posted by kannon (Post 1852416)

There are areas where we can reduce fossil fuel consumption thru use of new, cleaner, reusable energy sources - solar being a key one. You can already see car companies changing, not due to gov't pressures, but economic pressures in developing new electric cars. Eventually all cars and motorcycles will be electric and that will reduce emissions and force oil companies to change. I support the transition that Biden is pushing. Remember telegraph operators or telephone operators. Well long haul trackers will be changing in the future and so must oil companies. But that being said, there will remain important areas of our economy where oil will remain - plastics for one. Although new means of production that help reduce environmental damage will coincide with continuing oil usage.

Embrace the change. Trump pushed coal subsidies for an industry that is being forced due to economic pressures to change. If I was in PA or Texas I would embrace gov't support to transition to the future, instead of keeping status quo thru subsidies.

Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1852360)

Many, maybe even most, plastics are made from petroleum. If we shut down the oil industry it will likely significantly impact the availability and/or cost of anything made of or containing a significant amount of plastic.

Originally Posted by MaxCat (Post 1852478)

Good! Plastics are ruining the environment. Floating piles of plastics larger than some of our larger states floating in the oceans and killing off sea life. If prices went up it might force a more thoughtful and sensible use of plastics. Every little bit we can each do helps -- switch to a re-fillable water container and use instead of bottled water. Put your produce directly in your shopping basket and skip the little plastic bags. We don't need plastic in every aspect of our lives.

Originally Posted by skarra (Post 1852444)

If it means the end of those stupid blister packs that no one can open safely, I say Hurray!!!

Time to move on folks. We can do better.

Originally Posted by sooziesoul (Post 1852518)

I am very knowledgeable about wind energy . My relative is an “expert” on wind energy . He has testified in court as an expert many times and has had many papers published . He is an engineer with expertise on wind energy. A very very small percentage of energy is produced with wind turbines! They are not efficient ! Also the blades are not biodegradable ! There is no way to dispose of them so they are being stockpiled when they need replacement. Very large problem.

Originally Posted by sooziesoul (Post 1852518)

I am very knowledgeable about wind energy . My relative is an “expert” on wind energy . He has testified in court as an expert many times and has had many papers published . He is an engineer with expertise on wind energy. A very very small percentage of energy is produced with wind turbines! They are not efficient ! Also the blades are not biodegradable ! There is no way to dispose of them so they are being stockpiled when they need replacement. Very large problem.

Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1852360)

Many, maybe even most, plastics are made from petroleum. If we shut down the oil industry it will likely significantly impact the availability and/or cost of anything made of or containing a significant amount of plastic.

Originally Posted by sooziesoul (Post 1852518)

I am very knowledgeable about wind energy . My relative is an “expert” on wind energy . He has testified in court as an expert many times and has had many papers published . He is an engineer with expertise on wind energy. A very very small percentage of energy is produced with wind turbines! They are not efficient ! Also the blades are not biodegradable ! There is no way to dispose of them so they are being stockpiled when they need replacement. Very large problem.