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Many, maybe even most, plastics are made from petroleum. If we shut down the oil industry it will likely significantly impact the availability and/or cost of anything made of or containing a significant amount of plastic.
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Many, maybe even most, plastics are made from petroleum. If we shut down the oil industry it will likely significantly impact the availability and/or cost of anything made of or containing a significant amount of plastic.
That would be wonderful, but not likely to happen. We can .
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Not gonna happen ....
Electric airplanes? ; Ocean freighters?; Long haul trains?
Get a grip mate. THINK!!

Cities, cars etc. Certainly...
Plastics are NOT AT RISK..
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There are areas where we can reduce fossil fuel consumption thru use of new, cleaner, reusable energy sources - solar being a key one. You can already see car companies changing, not due to gov't pressures, but economic pressures in developing new electric cars. Eventually all cars and motorcycles will be electric and that will reduce emissions and force oil companies to change. I support the transition that Biden is pushing. Remember telegraph operators or telephone operators. Well long haul trackers will be changing in the future and so must oil companies. But that being said, there will remain important areas of our economy where oil will remain - plastics for one. Although new means of production that help reduce environmental damage will coincide with continuing oil usage.

Embrace the change. Trump pushed coal subsidies for an industry that is being forced due to economic pressures to change. If I was in PA or Texas I would embrace gov't support to transition to the future, instead of keeping status quo thru subsidies.
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If it means the end of those stupid blister packs that no one can open safely, I say Hurray!!!

Time to move on folks. We can do better.
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The oil industry is not going away. Will single use items like grocery bags change? Yes - probably to a biodegradable material so the oceans don't fill up with it. However, our lives are surrounded by polymers - Your keyboard, the housing on your computer, and your car are mostly made with polymers. However, I do think that producing more of our power needs through solar, wind, and geothermal makes lots of sense. Long haul carriers like planes, trains, trucks and ships will require petroleum based fuels for a long time.
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Many, maybe even most, plastics are made from petroleum. If we shut down the oil industry it will likely significantly impact the availability and/or cost of anything made of or containing a significant amount of plastic.
From Whitefield Plastics website
Onshore & offshore wind turbines, or wind energy, is one of the fastest-growing energy technologies in the country. It takes a short amount of time to build a wind farm and requires a small footprint. Whitefield Plastics manufactures high-performance polyurethane products for offshore wind and wind turbine energy applications.
Advances in polymer chemistry have resulted in polyurethanes that have operating ranges of 300F (150C). These high temperature/high pressure polyurethane materials and elastomers can be used in a wide range of operating environments and performance requirements.

Recently in Iowa there are wind turbines farms shut down as these 18000 lb blades are breaking off. Only one landfill in the state accepts them. They are ground up and buried. Of course you know that this stuff doesn’t decompose like forever. So much for clean energy.
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And with doubling the use of electric you can expect the usage rate to at least double.
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Old 10-26-2020, 07:02 AM
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Electric jets to fly around the world? Lots of energy! Maybe we will finally live like the jetsons! His flying machine turned into his briefcase! O boy! I can’t wait...come on folks-get a grip.
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