Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1060741)

If I'm not mistaken, that story is about 20 years old (10-17-94). I seem to remember when it first came out; it was very exciting news. I began to wonder if my family might have the same gene. My extended family (as I was growing up) was very large and I never heard of anyone having heart disease. Cancer, yes, but not heart disease.

I'm pretty sure I can eat all the meat, butter and eggs etc that I want without having to worry about heart disease. But what about cancer? According to research information from the China study, as well as other large scale studies, animal protein promotes cancer. And cancer is exactly what I have a family history of.

So, back to your story, what happened? If transferring this special gene was going to work, it should have worked by now.

Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 1060314)

Villages Pl - from what I know of you and your posts I think I can safely assume you live a perfectly healthy lifestyle - so, I'm curious if this didn't produce the results you expect and you need a bypass are you going to turn it down because you obviously didn't do something right? I think there are a whole lot of other areas where the personal responsibility you speak of might make a huge difference in what funds were available for folks that have worked hard all their lives and may need some medical help in their older years. Maybe it's time to lighten up and live and let live.

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1060754)

If you know of a whole lot of other areas where personal responsibility might make a huge difference, please let us all in on it. Don't keep all those good ideas to yourself. We need good ideas!

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1060141)

No more useless medical procedures for lifestyle diseases such as heart bypass operations for coronary artery disease. This is a huge expense and is only one of many. Hundreds of billions of dollars are spent every year for diseases that are caused by poor lifestyle choices.

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1060250)

OP refuses to believe any disease cannot be prevented or cured with anything other than plants. And any disease you get is your fault. It's a narrow-minded, uninformed view in my opinion.

Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1060441)

I think the poster comes up with pseudo-scientific sounding articles that he believes support his position. Faced with a question he doesn't understand or like, he deflects by raising another topic or by responding to your question with a question.

Originally Posted by KayakerNC (Post 1060592)

Pompous :cus: is much too mild.
Someone who advocates withholding medical procedures from a patient who hasn't followed his "anointed" diet is beneath contempt.

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1060771)

I join you in your comments.
The OP has suggested in previous threads that medical intervention should be withheld for people who don't adhere to his idea of an appropriate lifestyle.
Death Panels? What a barbaric suggestion.

Originally Posted by Cisco Kid (Post 1060826)

The duck says what ?

Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1060248)

I am 77- had heart triple by pass at 66.At the time was quite slim, ran 20mi plus a week, played golf, private pilot. did not drink alcohol , never smoked. My disease is hereditary. Would you proposing that I should have had a death sentence??

Hmmmmmmmmmmmn!

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1061021)

There would be massive education to the public and warnings to get tested for heart disease. So you go to get tested and your doctor certifies your condition as "genetic". He then gives you a card to carry in your wallet. If you were to get a heart attack while out shopping, or wherever, that card would be like a coupon entitling you to one free bypass operation. See, there's no need to worry. :)

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1061021)

I don't think it would have been a death sentence. If this program had been in place back then, when you were 66, I assume there would have been safeguards in place. There would be massive education to the public and warnings to get tested for heart disease. So you go to get tested and your doctor certifies your condition as "genetic". He then gives you a card to carry in your wallet. If you were to get a heart attack while out shopping, or wherever, that card would be like a coupon entitling you to one free bypass operation. See, there's no need to worry. :)

Originally Posted by DougB (Post 1061058)

Everything really all comes down to genetics. Did you know that if your parents never had any children, there is a 100% chance you wouldn't have any either?

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1061041)

What a barbaric concept! No need to worry? :boom:
Without a card, a person is refused critical medical treatment?

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1061078)

No, they are not refused. If they have private insurance coverage or money to pay for the operation, they can get it.

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1061078)

No, they are not refused. If they have private insurance coverage or money to pay for the operation, they can get it. Those who can't pay (for non-genetic heart disease) wouldn't be able to run Medicare & Medicaid bankrupt because they refuse to follow a healthy lifestyle. :boom:

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1061078)

No, they are not refused. If they have private insurance coverage or money to pay for the operation, they can get it. Those who can't pay (for non-genetic heart disease) wouldn't be able to run Medicare & Medicaid bankrupt because they refuse to follow a healthy lifestyle. :boom: