Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 2385374)

:bigbow::bigbow: Simple economics, Americans want cheap and will not pay for higher cost goods. There is a reason WalMart, Amazon, Dollar stores, Temu and others outside are huge, cheap goods for cheap price. Not saying it is good or bad, just a fact. Same will happen for groceries when the labor that produces them is eliminated prices will climb. Home prices will go up when laborers that do all the real work leave.

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2385378)

Understanding that tariffs, a form of a tax, will absolutely increase the cost of those products as the importer has higher costs.. those costs will be passed to the consumer, while the tariff imposed is collected by the Federal treasury. So now the US gov't has more money, but the consumer has less. This is another example of a regressive tax as consumers get hit but those who are not consuming, the 1%ers who are saving and investing not buying with most of their income are not being taxed. So the tax burden is imposed on those who can least afford it and the benefit of not needing to consider a higher marginal rate from the rich benefits who??

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2385786)

Thank you, that was a typo. Should read USSC=9. The United States Supreme Court should be codified to be made up of 9 members. No stacking of the court by increasing the number of justices so one side or the other can appoint a new majority by stacking it with new justices of their preference. I will attempt to go back and fix the original post.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2385742)

The Heritage Foundation has determined that the Constitution is no longer appropriate and needs to be changed. They are running this country as of January 20, 2025 (one might argue they're already running it, but I try to avoid hyperbole).

The Constitution can be further amended, and the 14th can be repealed with new amendments. Just like the amendment that created the prohibition, and the one that repealed it.

They can be deported anywhere, really. Whether the country on the other end accepts them or not is not America's problem. They could be deported to an island somewhere. Or America could vote to annex Guam as a military prison (it's already an American territory) and send them all there.

Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2385853)

What the Heritage Foundation has determined or not determined is irrelevant; they don't make the laws or enforce the laws. Your suggestion that they are running the country as of January 2025 is more nonsensical thinking on your part. Suggesting that US citizens can be put on a plane to nowhere specific is also nonsensical. It doesn't work that way regardless of what you think, thank God, as reaffirmed by the recent election. Get a grip.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2385860)

We shall see

Originally Posted by LianneMigiano (Post 2385359)

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2385793)

OK, the majority of employers who pay their employees in cash are violating the tax laws.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2385805)

Germany has more Unionization than the US does today. And they somehow manage to make cars that are sold and prized worldwide.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2385796)

Let me say how I avoid buying Chinese-made products. I buy almost ALL of my clothes from thrift stores or garage sales. I can also find hardware and sports equipment that way. For example, I have found almost new softball gloves at Goodwill that are worth $80 for under 10 dollars. I even buy shoes there. I COULD afford to buy new clothes, but they would likely be made in China or another country that does NOT like the US. It is true that items sitting in thrift stores may have been ORIGINALLY made in China, but China does NOT profit when I buy 2nd hand.
........Obviously China and many other countries, are NOT friends of the US. WE have basically, for about 60 years, FUNDED their industrial and military EXPANSION. Today, they threaten the US and align with Russia. They have greater influence in Africa than the US. And are outmaneuvering us in other areas of the world (and SPACE). We should NEVER have funded them and built them up. So, what to do now? I would suggest bringing back SOME manufacturing jobs. And buying products from countries that LIKE the US. Those may be dwindling, but we still have England, Canada, Australia, Finland, and Sweden on our side. Germany and France are having their own problems. So overall, I would be ANTI outsourcing to unfriendly countries and PRO IN-sourcing within the US.

Originally Posted by TheWarriors (Post 2385436)

That is just proof the past policies really didn’t work and you are an example of why we shouldn’t continue to ship jobs out of the Country. Many don’t care until it is their job and finances. Just wait until AI takes hold, the number of unemployed Lawyers, Accountants, Investment Analyst, etc, will skyrocket. If your job doesn’t include some hands on activity with people (Nurses, Plumbers, Doctors, Electricians, etc.) plan on large pay reductions and finally the unemployment line.

Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 2385874)

Not at all, as long as you follow tax, FICA and workers comp laws. There is no law detailing how employees are paid their wages. It only takes 28 keystrokes to get the facts.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2385441)

In certain situations, I totally agree with this statement. People are looking out for their family, their money, when they shop with price in mind. If you learn to be careful with your money, you will be able to take care of yourself and your family.

And if I continue, someone is gonna get mad at me for being political.

Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz (Post 2385449)

Oh it’s not just the tariffs that will raise prices, wait until there are no migrant workers to pick all the fresh fruit and vegetables in the fields. Who will pick them? Americans won’t do the job. Wait for your hand picked tomato costs $10 each, IF you can even get any because they have rotted in the fields unpicked.

Originally Posted by opinionist (Post 2385468)

Tariffs are intended to bring jobs back into the United States, thereby balancing trade. An additional benefit is a reduction in taxes. If the size of government can be cut by 80%, then taxes can be reduced to zero like in the 1800s. Since 80% of the government is not within the enumerated powers limited by the Constitution, the reduction is required by law. It will be interesting to see what happens.