[Northerner52]

Helped a friend buy a certified car at Ed Morse Cadillac yesterday. The first offer had an unusual line item on the paper. RECON $2,000. I asked 'What's that" I'm told its their cost to recondition the car for resale. I said it was not listed on the on line ad.....I said that's ridiculous- you add that to the selling price!! So when they asked what my friend would buy the car for I wrote BS next to the $2,000. They took it off. Many car dealer add a 'additional sticker' to used cars calling it ;additional dealer markup. Don't pay it! May will, not knowing it's negotiable. LET THE BUYER BEWARE-NEVER ACCEPT THE FIRST OFFER. BE PREPARED TO WALK OUT AND ACTUALLY DO IT, THEY USUALLY CALL YOU BACK THE NEXT DAY OR BEFORE YOU LEAVE THAT DAY.

[Chatbrat]

I am currently going to battle stations with MB of Ft Lauderdale, bought a certified car online-it had every option I wanted-but the next day after I got it I found out , the twin roller blind was missing--how can a vehicle be considered certified if its missing a piece of standard equipment--dealer cost for the part is $1100.00

Been in touch MB customer car, may go to small claims court

[Northerner52]

You may want to join our nice club: M.Benz Club of The Villages, Inc.
Next meeting Tuesday Oct 8.

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

I am currently going to battle stations with MB of Ft Lauderdale, bought a certified car online-it had every option I wanted-but the next day after I got it I found out , the twin roller blind was missing--how can a vehicle be considered certified if its missing a piece of standard equipment--dealer cost for the part is $1100.00

Been in touch MB customer car, may go to small claims court

[PrudentLifer]

The dreaded dealer add on window sticker!! Walk out immediately! There is always another dealer not selling mandatory useless add on crap, often amounting to several thousand dollars.



"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

[Northerner52]

Agreed! This one wasn't even posted anywhere!

Originally Posted by PrudentLifer

The dreaded dealer add on window sticker!! Walk out immediately! There is always another dealer not selling mandatory useless add on crap, often amounting to several thousand dollars.



"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

[Chatbrat]

Thanks for the invite, We have two benz's, but we're not club joiners

[Northerner52]

Not your typical club. No entertainment or food at meetings. Educational in nature. Tomorrow : Our speakers, Richie Breines, Shop Manager and Michael Siglga, Service Manager of Mercedes Benz of Gainesville. Their topic will be Mercedes Style and Safety. You are sure to learn some new things

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Thanks for the invite, We have two benz's, but we're not club joiners

[DeanFL]

Went to the Lincoln dealer on 441 Leesburg with a friend years ago, he was checking out new Lincolns. He was talking to a friend in the showroom while I was looking at the window sticker of a new SUV.

I saw an entry for "Dealer Rep - $900". A young sales rep came up to me, and right away I said - what's the dealer prep for? "Oh they don't do all the assembly at the factory, and we finish it in our dealer". I quickly said - what type of things do you need to do? A frightened look from him, then said " Like putting in the fuses and stuff". I took him to task and said - Do you tell all the customers that? How dare you... After a bit more give<>take a mgr came up and I told him that his staff is taking advantage of potential clients - just tell the truth.

My friend escorted me out and Lincolns at that dealer were not on his list.

[PrudentLifer]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

Went to the Lincoln dealer on 441 Leesburg with a friend years ago, he was checking out new Lincolns. He was talking to a friend in the showroom while I was looking at the window sticker of a new SUV.



I saw an entry for "Dealer Rep - $900". A young sales rep came up to me, and right away I said - what's the dealer prep for? "Oh they don't do all the assembly at the factory, and we finish it in our dealer". I quickly said - what type of things do you need to do? A frightened look from him, then said " Like putting in the fuses and stuff". I took him to task and said - Do you tell all the customers that? How dare you... After a bit more givetake a mgr came up and I told him that his staff is taking advantage of potential clients - just tell the truth.



My friend escorted me out and Lincolns at that dealer were not on his list.

"And stuff", lol.


"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

[alwann]

Where is Ed Morse Cadillac located? Does"Da Family" also own a car dealership? :>

[PrudentLifer]

Originally Posted by alwann

Where is Ed Morse Cadillac located? Does"Da Family" also own a car dealership? :>

If there's a body in the trunk, maybe. Lol


"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

[John_W]

First Rule: stay away from Jenkins. They have an $899 dealer fee, find a dealer that doesn't have fees. I used yelp.com, typed in the brand looked for dealers with 4 or 5 stars and good reviews.

Last year I bought a new 2018 Hyundai Kona, I went to Jenkins of Leesburg because they advertised a lime green one in stock. When I got there, they didn't have it or know when it would arrive. They said when they received paperwork that they are on order, they'll starting listing it.

I drove at a gray Kona and sat down with the salesman and the sales manager. They gave me $24,500 for my trade and wanted $3300 plus my car. I said, let me check around.

I read the good reviews from Hyundai of Central Florida in Clermont, and saw no dealer fees on their website. I went there next and they had 33 Konas in stock. Jenkins had about 10. They only offered $24,000 for my trade but only wanted $24,200 for the Limited Edition that I wanted. So my car and $200, that's $3100 cheaper than Jenkins.

Normally I say, stay away from dealers with dealer fees. However, I know a person who liked the Kona but waited until the end of the year and got new one for $2400 less than I paid at Holler Hyundai n Winter Park. Even though they paid a dealer fee, the base selling price was much lower due to 2019's were arriving.

[vintageogauge]

When I make an offer on a car it is an out the door offer, you give me the car and you get a check for this amount, period. It took me 4-1/2 hours to buy a Honda Civic for my wife at my price from Jenkins in Leesburg, I'll never go back there again. I did finally get it at my price and they had to deliver it to me the next day as I wasn't about to stay there any longer.

Just the opposite at Phillips Buick in Fruitland Park, I dealt with Scott Hall for a new Enclave, made my offer, he came back with a signed contract and told me to go empty my trade while they completed the paper work, the only delay was getting someone at TV Insurance to get them my insurance certificate. Great place to buy a car and Scott is the ultimate no-push salesman.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

When I make an offer on a car it is an out the door offer, you give me the car and you get a check for this amount, period. It took me 4-1/2 hours to buy a Honda Civic for my wife at my price from Jenkins in Leesburg, I'll never go back there again. I did finally get it at my price and they had to deliver it to me the next day as I wasn't about to stay there any longer.

Just the opposite at Phillips Buick in Fruitland Park, I dealt with Scott Hall for a new Enclave, made my offer, he came back with a signed contract and told me to go empty my trade while they completed the paper work, the only delay was getting someone at TV Insurance to get them my insurance certificate. Great place to buy a car and Scott is the ultimate no-push salesman.

I agree with making an out the door price offer to the dealer. But, you need to research the fair value and calculate the out the door price before you go to the dealership. If your price is fair, and you make a firm, non-negotiable offer, almost any dealer will accept it, regardless of what they claim to charge for dealer prep or anything else. But, I would never spend 4 hours talking to a dealer about the price. The last time I bought a car, I test drove the car one day, and came back two days later and gave the dealer 15 minutes to accept my out the door offer written on a piece of paper. They accepted it just as I was walking out the door. I also think it is a good idea to refuse to sit at their little desk to discuss anything, or to let the salesperson go talk to his manager. I stay in the waiting room, drinking their free coffee until they accept the deal. If they don't accept it immediately, I give them my phone number and leave. They will surely call you.

[xkeowner]

If they have dealer prep or processing fees included and the car has a dealer identity decal and or license plate frame I ask for an advertising credit or removal of the decal/frame.

One salesman at MB Gainesville tried to tell me the non-advertising "Mercedes" frame from my trade-in MB would not fit the MB I was purchasing so he put mine in the trunk. Five minutes after I was home my plate was on the car and fitting perfectly while the dealer's frame was in my trash.