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Originally Posted by srswans (Post 2146714)

Why should we care? That’s easy - so we can vote effectively at each election.

Twitter censorship is a problem because it makes finding the truth more difficult.

Surely removing the word 'censorship' from that sentence would give the statement a better meaning!

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Originally Posted by Halbraun (Post 2146762)

Twitter (Facebook, social media in general) is NOT news…. It is the Wild West where you can say pretty much anything you want. Much like forums :-)

If you make your voting decisions based on Social Media.. well, just look around.

Not really. You will be banned (sometimes permanently) for saying things that upset those who hold the keys to the castle...

Myocarditis in SARS-CoV-2 infection vs. COVID-19 vaccination: A systematic review and meta-analysis

Myocarditis in SARS-CoV-2 infection vs. COVID-19 vaccination: A systematic review and meta-analysis - PMC

Background

This study aimed to compare the incidence of myocarditis in COVID-19 vaccines and in severe acute respiratory syndrome-coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection groups.

Methods

Electronic databases (MEDLINE, Scopus, Cochrane Central Register of Controlled Trials, Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews, and the WHO Global Literature on Coronavirus Disease) and trial registries were searched up to May 2022, for randomized controlled trials and observational cohort studies reporting the risk of myocarditis associated with the COVID-19 vaccines and the risk associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection.

We estimated the effect of COVID-19 infection and vaccines on rates of myocarditis by random-effects meta-analyses using the generic inverse variance method. Meta-regression analyses were conducted to assess the effect of sex and age on the incidence of myocarditis.

Results

We identified 22 eligible studies consisting of 55.5 million vaccinated cohorts and 2.5 million in the infection cohort.

The median age was 49 years (interquartile range (IQR): 38–56), and 49% (IQR: 43 to 52%) were men. Of patients diagnosed with myocarditis (in both vaccination and COVID-19 cohort) 1.07% were hospitalized and 0.015% died. The relative risk (RR) for myocarditis was more than seven times higher in the infection group than in the vaccination group [RR: 15 (95% CI: 11.09–19.81, infection group] and RR: 2 (95% CI: 1.44-2.65, vaccine group).

Of patients who developed myocarditis after receiving the vaccine or having the infection, 61% (IQR: 39–87%) were men. Meta-regression analysis indicated that men and younger populations had a higher risk of myocarditis.

A slow decline in the rates of myocarditis was observed as a function of time from vaccination. The risk of bias was low.

Conclusion

In this systematic review and meta-analysis, we found that the risk of myocarditis is more than seven fold higher in persons who were infected with the SARS-CoV-2 than in those who received the vaccine.

These findings support the continued use of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines among all eligible persons per CDC and WHO recommendations.

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Originally Posted by Halbraun (Post 2146762)

You are spot on regarding social media. Opinion Cable Television is a close second as where you don’t want to go to get the facts.

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2146065)

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Twitter removes, then restores Florida Surgeon General's warning tweet

Guidance for Mrna COVID-19 Vaccine | Florida Department of Health

Thanks for the post, yes, might have missed it. Yet, we know how every fortunate we are to live in a state where at least free speech is still at least tolerated ! I count my blessings everyday... still have relatives living under very severe conditions: tax, speech, covid, education indoctrination, crime, violence, etc. Yes, the villages is getting more dangerous everyday (won't see it in the crime blotter of the daily paper though), but still, much to be thankful for !

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2146682)

This is odd. The Florida Surgeon General “can’t be silent about the truth” that there is an increased risk of cardiac problems among men aged 18-39 during the four weeks after they get an mRNA COVID vaccination. This is a bit like the calumny about The Villages having a high rate of STIs, when it was based on an increase of a much smaller number than in the surrounding areas.

To make sense of this, you have to read the eight page unpublished anonymous paper linked at the bottom of the second link above. In this case the number in this age group was increased a little, but it was still less than one tenth the number of cardiac problems in the 40-59 age group, which was not considered unusual. Again: cardiac problems are unusual among 18-39 year old men, and if they go up slightly, they are still only a tenth as many as 40-59 year old men and perhaps 3% as common as among men 60 and older.

The study also says this, which the Florida Surgeon General conveniently failed to mention: “Risk for both all-cause and cardiac-related deaths was substantially higher 28 days following COVID-19 infection. The risk associated with mRNA vaccination should be weighed against the risk associated with COVID-19 infection.” What does that mean? Yes, men in that age group have a very slightly increased chance of cardiac problems for a month after getting vaccinated, but if they DO get COVID, even a mild case, their chances are much higher!

Do your homework! Don’t just grab a headline and assume that it is true. In this case, the Florida Surgeon General is publishing something true but not very significant while failing to mention things in the same study that are much more significant.
1) There is a statistically significant risk increase of cardiac-related death only for one month among one group that has very little cardiac-related death—not for the rest of us.
2) The risk for that group and all others is substantially higher if they get COVID than if they get vaccinated.

I’m disappointed that the Florida Surgeon General would do this. How many lives will be lost because of his stunt?

Whatever lives are attached to people who believe whatever they read on the internet without checking the resources. Thoughts and prayers - whatevs.

And off we go……….