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Mistrial or Reversal
She wasn't arrested, why read her the Miranda, 2.the judge under this circumstance has every right to have a court order, in order to keep all gamesmanship out of the trial is within his jurisdiction and certainly keeps the trial timely...3.How was the defense restricted? 4, I missed the overlay, was the jury privy to this?, 5,...They stipulated other decisions that allowed family to be present during previous testimonies, I'll admit this was strange..I won't be surprised if this will be tied up in court for many many years on appeal....I appreciate your insite as an attorney but still question some of your comments but that is what makes the world go 'round! IMHO
In respoinse to the answer to my note on mistrial, appeal reversal: Comments above: 1. As the retired sheriff of Dade/Miami County said she should have been mirandized the moment they put her in the back seat of a squad car. Further as Harvard Professor Dershish (Spelling of name?) said when they put her in a room with 2 deputy sheriff's + the Detective and they started to ask questions including the one by the Detective, "Are you going to stay with the story you just told" she had to be Mirandized. She was not and per both this is a serious violation and basis for a mistrial. 2. I was involved in a trial in the Federal Building in NYC when a Federal Judge said to the cross exam attorney that he must provide his questions ahead of time.The ex US Attorney General who was, sitting next to me said that is cause for a mistrial. The judge realizing he made an error corrected it and said he was only suggesting it and it was not a court order. To illustrate the trick that was played on this..The State did not raise this in a deposition as they wanted to have it testified in court and the expert did. When the defense started to raise a question, the State said it was not in the original opinion submitted by the expert. This was a trick by the State and unfortuntely the Defense walked into it. How could the expert expect to put it in a report if it was not a problem in a deposition. The trick was not by the defense but rather by the State and they got away with it. 3. This is purely subjective but I believe there is a huge imbalance between how many sustained objections he approved for the state vs the defense. I am not sure how strong this is for a mistrial but it appears to be a judicial leaning to the State. We should remember the Judge was a "Prosecutor"!!! 4. Yes, it was shown to the jury and it was totally out of line since it was "created evidence" made to look factual. 5. I believe there was a request by the Defense to challenge this in a hearing and it was rejected. |
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Honestly PennBF don't you think
Baez needs a few more years under his belt before taking on this case that is under the microscope...I know he has been over-ruled at least 4 times as much as the prosecution on objections BUT I find the prosecution more competent...
In regard to Cindy, George and Lee listening to testimony, I'm sure it was stated that on previous cases, it was allowed for families of defendents only! Regarding Dr. Spitz, between me and you and everyone in TOTV land, do you honestly believe that the good Dr. could not determine the MANNER of death? Seriously! |
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Was going to stop
I was honestly going to stop posting on this subject but decided to add one more. The Comments:
"]Baez needs a few more years under his belt before taking on this case that is under the microscope...I know he has been over-ruled at least 4 times as much as the prosecution on objections BUT I find the prosecution more competent Comment: There are a number of reasons an attorney will object to a question. Some of which are: (a) To alert the witness to really think the answer out, (b) to break any rhythm that the other attorney may have set. There are attempt to set a rhythm so when it is broken the opposing attorney knows the witness is uncomfortable with the question and will come back to it, etc.etc.(c) because they really object to the question. My point is that being over-ruled is not just a sign of lacking compentency but can be a good technique when there is cross examinations. "In regard to Cindy, George and Lee listening to testimony, I'm sure it was stated that on previous cases, it was allowed for families of defendents only!" Comment: I am astonished that possible witness's can sit in on testimony as it poison's the whole concept of unvarnished truthful testimony. If you know what has been said by other witness's you have to be influenced as to what you will testify to. In this case the parents sitting in may be significant character's in the case and should never be allowed in the court while any testimony is being heard. Remember it is alleged that they have their own attorney who is only looking out for thier interests. "Regarding Dr. Spitz, between me and you and everyone in TOTV land, do you honestly believe that the good Dr. could not determine the MANNER of death?"Seriously[COLOR= Comments: I absolutely believe that (a) he testified truthfully as his reputation is critical to him as it reprents his life's work. (b) I absolutely believe the manner and cause of death cannot be determined. Not only based on his testimony but those of other experts. |
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I think that too much money is being wasted. Casey has a brain that is not wired right.They should just put her a way in a mental hospital forever. I believe if anyhone gets in her way again , she is capable of harming people. Would you want her living at your house? She was born this way. No one is to blame. It is possible to have a doctor , lawyer, writer, priest and a mass murderer from the same set of parents. It just is. Just my opinion so far.
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http://www.wftv.com/video/28281980/index.html While I have formed an opinion on this case based on the prosecution’s evidence and their witness’s testimonies, I will reserve my final verdict until the defense rests it case and the final arguments have been made. But the defense will need to come up with something more than what I have seen so far from their witnesses. |
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Thanks EdVinMass
I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one that witnessed opinions from pundits that felt that the defense is playing games!...I'm also reserving my conclusion until the end...I do think that Dr. Spitz was upset that he was NOT allowed to participate in the original autopsy, thereby making his cross less than believable!
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Good Input VillageFlorida
I agree with most of the comments written by "VillagesFlorida". They are
pretty rationale. Anyone who is a Theryapist or has evey experienced or read about "pedophiles" would understand the terrible impact it can have on a child and how it could very easily lead to a "Disassociative Disorder". It is almost like a "dual personality" caused by childhood abuse. Most experienced Theryapists recognize and are familiar with the disorder and how it can be a result from sexual abuse as a child. It is hard if not almost impossible for a normal person to either understand or accept the disorder since they have either (a) not studied the disease or (b) were not sexually abused as a child. There has been an accusation that the father sexually abused her. If that is the case then it could lead to all sorts of mental disorders and problems. The philosophical question is how much is the victim responsible and is further punishment called for or should there be some empathy and treatment. As the famous psychiatrist said when interviewed on TV, she may actually be the victim?? |
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To quote a portion of the above post:
The philosophical question is how much is the victim responsible and is further punishment called for or should there be some empathy and treatment. As the famous psychiatrist said when interviewed on TV, she may actually be the victim??[/QUOTE] Well, the second "victim" in this case, assuming that Casey WAS abused, is responsible, or seemingly so at this point. I'm not sure that being a psycopath will keep her from being punished. She more than likely, if found guilty of "something", will spend the rest of her life in prison. I would not feel comfortable knowing that she is out in society, should she be aquitted. She has no conscience and isn't capable of living by the same rules that we do. She IS sick and probably should live out her years in a mental hospital. This is such a sad case in that there may well be two victims here. No human being would ever wish to end up like Casey Anthony. There is no doubt in my mind that a deficiency of some sort, or severe trauma caused her to develop into an empty shell, a true sociopath who is not capable of feeling or caring about her fellow human beings.
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Soooo, are we now to assume
that Casey is FINALLY telling us the truth.... about sexual abuse......
..... Have we forgotten about a sweet little 2 year old child that was tossed in the garbage....Oh my, I give up!...Might as well toss Cindy and George and Lee in the garbage also.....Geeeez! |
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If she should not be punished and/or held criminally responsible in the event the jury decides that she committed homicide (of any degree), should all psychopaths go unpunished for heinous crimes? Should all sexual abuse victims? |
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Not Unpunished
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I don't think, unless something changes drastically (and I don't see that happening), the truth will ever be known. The only absolute truth in this whole thing is that a child is dead. IMO, Casey should be put away somewhere for the rest of her days. I can't see her ever having the ability to be a viable contributor to society. If the death penalty were to be consistently applied for extreme stupidity, lying, manipulation, etc., death row could not hold them all. With all the available drugs out there, both prescription and OTC, what's with the chloroform? Way too much trouble to concoct and super-super-stupid. Surely there were drugs readily available in that house that she could have "accidentally gotten into"...little ones do it all the time.
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Concern
A major concern I would have at this point is that so many have convicted her without hearing the defense? She may be a "liar", she may be a
sociopath, and the evidence may be 99% against her but there is still 1% that has not been said and I for one don't believe she should be hung before she has had a chance to defend herself. I do not believe in a "rush to judgement" !! Many have hung her without so much as a word of defense. This is a capital case and therefore deserves all the justice system can provide. If she is judged to be mentally unbalanced then I agree she should be placed in a secure mental institution as it is a well know fact that there is no cure for a "sociopath". There is a great book titled "The Sociopath Next Door" which was written by a Psychiatrist at Harvard who spent he life studying sociopaths. I would recommend it as a good research tool for those who are interested. |
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