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Walter123 10-01-2014 12:06 PM

I remember AC before the casino's. It was a lot of fun and the place for families to go. Seaside heights too.

Villages PL 10-01-2014 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 946457)
First of all, it is not the state that had anything to do with gaming going to a particular area; it was either a county thing or definitive area within a county. Once gaming was voted into an area, there were far more plusses than negatives.

I wasn't referring to the issue of gaming going to a particular area within a county.

Counties are, to a large extent, controlled by state law. That's why I said, "States should think twice about building their economies on a house of cards."

There's an article on this: "New Jersey Governor To Take control over State Gambling Industry." Governor Christ Christie of New Jersey is at the stage where he will need to make an important decision regarding the future of gambling in the state.

Counties don't control the state, the state controls the counties.

Patty55 10-01-2014 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 946679)
I remember AC before the casino's. It was a lot of fun and the place for families to go. Seaside heights too.

It's still fun for families. You have the beach, arcades, the rides and restaurants. My family loved going there.

njbchbum 10-01-2014 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 946689)
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There's an article on this: "New Jersey Governor To Take control over State Gambling Industry." Governor Christ Christie of New Jersey is at the stage where he will need to make an important decision regarding the future of gambling in the state.
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A search on 'Atlantic City Tourism District" revealed more recent articles re the actual legislation that was enacted. A good article on same is found here: State defines boundaries for Atlantic City Tourism District; Langford casts lone 'no' vote - pressofAtlanticCity.com: Casinos & Tourism And another is here: Atlantic City Tourism District Improvements Begin

The State has always controlled gambling in A.C. under the Casion Control Commission and the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority - neither of which has been eliminated but simply placed under new jurisdiction within the State government.

njbchbum 10-01-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 946756)
It's still fun for families. You have the beach, arcades, the rides and restaurants. My family loved going there.

Lost of folks - locals and visiotrs - have been enjoying the resurrected Steel Pier! Rides and Attractions at Steel Pier

Even the beach bars have been enjoying popularity!
Atlantic City Beach Bars - Beach Bars in Atlantic City - Atlantic City

There's more to A.C. today and the casinos are not necessarily benefitting from it!

KayakerNC 10-01-2014 02:48 PM

DW & I went to AC summer of 2013 after a neice's wedding in Michigan. We stayed at Ballys. Not the most modern hotel in town, but very nice and quite reasonable.
Loved the boardwalk and the nearby pier.
But, I don't think AC is a very nice place once you get out of the casino area.
All in all, it was a fun trip.

MikeV 10-01-2014 03:34 PM

I used to go there pretty often. I would drive into Bally's parking lot, gamble then drive back out of AC. Not a very nice area.

2BNTV 10-01-2014 03:48 PM

I disagree. Just too many casinos operating within a too small area. Put in other terms, there was a glut of casinos. When that many casinos close, it has nothing to do with that many people deciding to play somewhere else.

There are many "true" gamblers that still go to Atlantic City. Closer doesn't matter when a person has a favorite place because they are treated royally and they don't want to change where they play. It is a comfort zone with them and some even consider it status and like to brag about it.

What do you mean Atlantic City never had any other attractions other than the boardwalk??? Are you serious? Atlantic City had (and still has) beautiful wide beaches. It had the Steel Pier and rolling chairs on the boardwalk and beautiful hotels. It was a resort town second to none years ago and I'm not speaking about "the turn of the century." The turn of the century? Where did that come from? We aren't speaking about 1899 or even 1901. As a child growing up there, it was definitely on the map and a place to go!


I agree to disagree. Jersey has many seaside towns, that people visit. I haven't heard too many people that specifically wanted to go to AC for the beach and boardwalk. It has been a rundown area near the casino, with people not willing to venture out and about.

Most people I know, don't want to jump in a car and and drive 3 hours to AC when they can gamble at a place closer. It doesn't have the attractiveness it once had, and most people don't want to take a long trip to gamble. If one lives close to AC, that is an option for people in the near vicinity.

You are entitled to your opinion as I am!!!

village dreamer 10-01-2014 05:21 PM

ac is a dump,its returning to its 1970 look. the beach is so small and dirty and the boardwalk you cant go on it at night.

EnglishJW 10-02-2014 09:04 AM

Revel cost $2.4 billion - sold for $110 million. Atlantic City casino Revel sold for pennies on the dollar - Fortune

KayakerNC 10-02-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 946880)
ac is a dump,its returning to its 1970 look. the beach is so small and dirty and the boardwalk you cant go on it at night.

Not sure what your agenda is. :crap2:
While I agree that AC isn't the Paris of the East Coast, we found the beaches near Ballys (where we stayed) to be nice, and we were on the boardwalk EVERY night during our mini-vacation last summer.

allus70 10-02-2014 10:16 PM

NY Is Getting Into The Mix Too
 
NY now has limited gambling (slots,no blackjack) at old racetracks located in Queens and Yonkers, as well as full service casinos upstate which are run by the Indian Nations.

There is intense competition in planning for several new complete casinos which will opening up just outside the city limits and beyond with the possibility of casinos eventually opening up in NYC some years down the line.

It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't proposition. Don't allow gambling, and that state's gamblers will take their money to neighboring states. Allow gambling, and along with it comes all it's problems.

Bonanza 10-03-2014 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 946880)
ac is a dump,its returning to its 1970 look. the beach is so small and dirty and the boardwalk you cant go on it at night.

Save for the casinos themselves, Atlantic City is a dump and has been for many years.

However, the beaches are not small by any means and have always been known for the soft sand. I can't speak about dirty, but perhaps you have been there right after the slobs left and before they were cleaned the following morning???

Bonanza 10-03-2014 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 946819)
"]I disagree. Just too many casinos operating within a too small area. Put in other terms, there was a glut of casinos. When that many casinos close, it has nothing to do with that many people deciding to play somewhere else.

There are many "true" gamblers that still go to Atlantic City. Closer doesn't matter when a person has a favorite place because they are treated royally and they don't want to change where they play. It is a comfort zone with them and some even consider it status and like to brag about it.

What do you mean Atlantic City never had any other attractions other than the boardwalk??? Are you serious? Atlantic City had (and still has) beautiful wide beaches. It had the Steel Pier and rolling chairs on the boardwalk and beautiful hotels. It was a resort town second to none years ago and I'm not speaking about "the turn of the century." The turn of the century? Where did that come from? We aren't speaking about 1899 or even 1901. As a child growing up there, it was definitely on the map and a place to go!


I agree to disagree. Jersey has many seaside towns, that people visit. I haven't heard too many people that specifically wanted to go to AC for the beach and boardwalk. It has been a rundown area near the casino, with people not willing to venture out and about.

Most people I know, don't want to jump in a car and and drive 3 hours to AC when they can gamble at a place closer. It doesn't have the attractiveness it once had, and most people don't want to take a long trip to gamble. If one lives close to AC, that is an option for people in the near vicinity.

You are entitled to your opinion as I am!!!

You weren't speaking about any other seaside town in New Jersey; you were speaking specifically about Atlantic City. Period.

You also were not speaking about the people you know who lived three hours away. I never said it has the attractiveness it once had and you were talking about "the turn of the century," which was laughable and had nothing to do with anything! I wasn't around at the turn of the century and I assume you weren't either.

Yes, you are entitled to your opinion but nothing you said was an opinion. Conveniently, you changed the subject, however, there is nothing I said with which you can disagree.

EnglishJW 10-04-2014 11:04 AM

Atlantic City is clearly not what it once was. Atlantic City has not experienced a rebirth as a result of the introduction of gambling as was hoped (nor has Camden with the battleship New Jersey plus an aquarium or Newark with both a state of the art indoor arena for hockey/basketball/concerts and a gorgeous Performing Arts Center). Nonetheless, Atlantic City - and the surrounding areas, still has much to offer including the remaining casinos, the beaches and boardwalks. We just had our 50th high school reunion over two days in AC for 150+ people at Resorts. All of us had a terrific time. My wife and I finally made a little side trip to see Lucy in Margate and the Mammal Rescue Center in Brigantine (an island city in Atlantic County). AC is accessible from NYC, closer to Philadelphia, and nearby to most of NJ. Hopefully it will someday regain more of its former glory.


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