[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

It is just a shame....

Yes it is. Everyone can now make a success of life here in the U.S.. Everyone. Everyone, if they want to. Life isn't easy, we all have things holding us back. We can whine, or we can win.

If someone is down on you. Show them they are wrong.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Unbelievable.

I'm shocked this post is even allowed to stand.

... not to mention the post about hoping he'll be taken off the field in a cart.

[rjn5656]

Once a thug, always a thug

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

I think people are far off base in saying the outcry is to deny him his constitutional rights. Of course he has the right to say what he said......but the problem in THIS situation is that he is an EMPLOYEE of a business entity, and he is there to perform his friggin' JOB for the employer and customers who pay admission and are t.v. viewers. He can say whatever stupid, ignorant insult he wants--against our "government"--but we don't have to like it or put up with it!!

He condemns the "government" for "oppressing" black people, but WE are the government in that we PAY lots of money for palatial venues for guys like him to play in, and WE pay a fortune for Homeland Security, police, fire and more to protect this ingrate from terrorist attacks such as happened in the stadium in Paris last November. Those stadiums full of people are huge targets, and WE pay to protect that INGRATE. We have a right to say what WE think, about what he said about us and our government, too!

The NFL is an employee that has celebrities who are worshiped by many fans. It is good that some of their stars take stands on something that they believe in and that is protected by the Freedom of Speech Clauses in the US and State Constitutions.

Singers, actors, directors, and athletes in other venues often taken stands on things.

And Home Security protect places like football stadiums because of the threat of terrorists attacking them mainly because of the crowds in them not what some football player does by the act of not standing during a National Anthem.

Colin Kaepernich was trying to condemn the murder of some black men by sometimes corrupt and/or racist police. There is still a lot of racism in the US even in the Villages if you look at the Political Board.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by rjn5656

Once a thug, always a thug

How do you see him as a "thug"? What in his life deserves that label??


Colin Kaepernick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kaepernick anthem protest: What are you doing to help any cause?

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by CFrance

... not to mention the post about hoping he'll be taken off the field in a cart.

Yep.

Seeing so many coming out of the woodwork to express such hateful feelings...can't help but make decent Americans a little sad.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

How do you see him as a "thug"? What in his life deserves that label??

Colin Kaepernick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kaepernick anthem protest: What are you doing to help any cause?

Because he has black skin...of course.

[DONKEY10]

I am sick of actors and pro athletes voicing their opinion on political and social matters. They need to focus on themselves and their jobs. Without the fans they are nothing and would be working in a carwash otherwise.

[onslowe]

Ah hah, the race card is waved. Surprise, surprise.... End discussions and exchange of ideas and opinions...wave the old race card. Getting very old.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by onslowe

Ah hah, the race card is waved. Surprise, surprise.... End discussions and exchange of ideas and opinions...wave the old race card. Getting very old.

Back to Veterans. What have people done for Veterans' lately? My 224 613 Project to get practical materials for survivors/victims of crimes in or accessible through libraries of all kinds will help Veterans as I have tried to get practical mental health materials also into libraries or accessible through them. As well as highlighted in law enforcement web-sites. This is a 25.75 year Project at great personal and family cost but something I had to do because of my unique positions to various people and institutions.

Many celebrities including NFL players have helped me with this Project since 1992 or so in some form-- often very creative-- but the fans seldom have done much of anything that I know of anyway.

Looking at your library or sheriff's office web-site does not take much energy.

Nor does not standing for a National Anthem but that probably did more for some black Veterans who have various problems than the many people all over Facebook who are making all kinds of hateful suggestions about Colin Kaepernick a celebrity who is trying to draw attention to a societal problem that DOES include Veterans and has more meaning than waving a flag when it is convenient to do so.

[goodtimesintv]

Oh, please. This ingrate could have made this statement AT a U.S. government venue, like at the Congress or at the White House. Or, he could have done it at the biggest events affecting national government in months: the RNC and DNC Conventions in Cleveland or Philadelphia.

There was at least one flag burning at the Cleveland convention (cops had to say "Hey, Stupid.....you are on fire" when the moron failed to light the flag). Regardless of how ugly and poisonous such events are, it's still, fortunately, a citizen's right to protest.

But that ingrate FB player did not do it there, did he? NO. He did it at this game, without warning or statement at the time, so he could send the message to millions of young black people that they are "oppressed" and the average NFL player, making millions, is "oppressed", too.

The goal was to poison young people and to DIVIDE this society worse than it already is. THAT is not the kind of role model decent Americans want in front of their kids. They want role models like Aaron Rogers, not that ingrate!!

Which NFL Player Gives The Most To Charity? - Look to the Stars

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[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

Oh, please. This ingrate could have made this statement AT a U.S. government venue, like at the Congress or at the White House. He could have done it at the biggest events affecting national government in months: the RNC and DNC Conventions in Cleveland or Philadelphia.

There was at least one flag burning at the Cleveland convention (cops had to say "Hey, Stupid.....you are on fire" when the moron failed to light the flag).

But he did not do it there, did he? NO. He did it at this game, without warning or statement at the time, so he could send the message to millions of young black people that they are "oppressed" and the average NFL player, making millions, is "oppressed", too.

The goal was to poison young people and to DIVIDE this society worse than it already is. THAT is not the kind of role model decent Americans want in front of their kids. They want role models like Aaron Rogers, not that ingrate!!

Actually all he did was not stand up for the National Anthem. He did explain why. And many black people already know that they have problems with some police departments. They do not need Colin Kaepernick to point that out to them. He did remind many people though that there are still problems relating to race in the US. You see them right here on this thread.

Kaepernick did nothing like burning a flag. He just did not stand up.

And I do not see his action as divisive. It is the racists that are making it look that way for some problem they have with a half African American quarterback standing up to show that there are still problems in the US that need to be addressed.

And where did he say he is "oppressed"?

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by DONKEY10

I am sick of actors and pro athletes voicing their opinion on political and social matters. They need to focus on themselves and their jobs. Without the fans they are nothing and would be working in a carwash otherwise.

So you think Trump should have kept his mouth shut on political matters...before becoming a candidate?

After all, he was nothing but a 'celebrity,' prior to that.

I have to disagree.

This great country allows anyone to voice their political opinions...as it should be.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

So you think Trump should have kept his mouth shut on political matters...before becoming a candidate?

After all, he was nothing but a 'celebrity,' prior to that.

I have to disagree.

This great country allows anyone to voice their political opinions...as it should be.

It is a great country with many Veterans who have served their country very well. I met a lot of them at the Veterans' Hospital I volunteered at in 1977-1978 in Reno, Nevada and still meet them around the Villages since 2005. They have all kinds of different opinions about all kinds of stuff.

[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Actually all he did was not stand up for the National Anthem. He did explain why. And many black people already know that they have problems with some police departments. They do not need Colin Kaepernick to point that out to them. He did remind many people though that there are still problems relating to race in the US. You see them right here on this thread.

Kaepernick did nothing like burning a flag. He just did not stand up.

And I do not see his action as divisive. It is the racists that are making it look that way for some problem they have with a half African American quarterback standing up to show that there are still problems in the US that need to be addressed.

And where did he say he is "oppressed"?

He did not have the GUTS to go to the nearest person with a microphone and say what he was doing and why. He did it like a coward who wants his cake ($119 million salary over 6 years), and eat it, too (be in front of the cameras nationally for the next several hours).

And he DID "explain why" he did it, but not THERE. He did it afterward in the safety of his franchise and NFL handlers who would then pooh pooh his rotten attitude because he is their cash cow!

And since you mention it, "half African American" is half caucasian, and this ingrate was rescued from who knows what kind of life by caucasian adoptive parents.

I don't see him doing anything to raise awareness of ADOPTION of kids who truly are "oppressed", of any race!

And what has he done to his adoptive parents? They probably are in hiding, for fear of THEIR lives.