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gustavo 04-22-2013 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 664387)
In the 3+ years I have been living in The Villages, there was only ONE incident of gun violence. That was a domestic shooting and BOTH were retired police officers. It did not leave their house.

There were two other separate incidents of men with concealed weapon permits who were arrested after displaying their pistols in a threatening manner to someone for taking a parking space. These resulted in arrests and charges of Assault With A Deadly Weapon. I am sure the legal fees and fines (maybe jail time) were well worth the parking space.

Does anyone else know of anymore gun violence incidents in The Villages where it would be necessary to tote a gun in The Villages?
I haven't seen any houses burned down in my neighborhood lately, so maybe I should cancel my fire insurance.

rubicon 04-22-2013 03:26 PM
I Say to mat o and you say tomato, let's call the whole thing off
 


Well what I have learned from viewing TOTV ,that the following subjects really hit a nerve guns, dog poop, old people driving cars/carts, young people driving cars/carts, slow golf carts, fast golf carts, round-a-abouts, dogs at the square, dogs in restaurants. Gosh isn't living in TV exciting.

Owning a gun is a personal choice. Yet I noticed during a review of the posts the same people who argue against gun ownership are the same ones that have argued that abortion is a personal choice. Hmmmmmmmmm

BTK got it right. I have never owned a gun and only shot one, once, in order to get through boot camp.

However, because of the push by some to limit my Second Amendment rights I have been seriously considering going to the gun club in Leesbug to buy a gun and learn how to use it. In addition to the Second Amendment issue what changed my mind I want one "just in case as BTK pointed out. The police are slow to respond and the FBI missed big time with those guys from Boston.

As for how many bullets actually hit their target my response would be how many of those bad guys will hang around long enough to find out

By the way its tomato.

eremite06 04-22-2013 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 664369)
yes, and keep in mind the OP did have one entire hour of training on the shooting range to get his permit. Note that all the cops and military in Boston fired all those shots and didn't manage to kill the younger brother. There is also the story told by the chief of police that they didn't kill the older brother either, that he was in fact run over by his sibling driving away. Either way, cops and soldiers miss a lot more than they hit. Good luck with your head shot in a darkened theater or on the square.
Are you kidding? The older sibling died of lead poisoning. He had so many GSW's they were too numerous to count. And the younger one got away because he drove away in the dark. He, too, was shot numerous times.

eremite06 04-22-2013 04:50 PM
OK, let's split hairs. Either way these two were going down.

manaboutown 04-22-2013 05:06 PM
Perhaps backgrounds checks should be necessary for pressure cooker purchasers since they can be used to manufacture weapons of mass destruction.

Mack184 04-22-2013 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 664460)
Perhaps backgrounds checks should be necessary for pressure cooker purchasers since they can be used to manufacture weapons of mass destruction.
I'm sure at least one person is already thinking about that one.

Biker Dog 04-22-2013 05:17 PM
I have a CCW Permit in Pennsylvania, what must I do to get one in Florida? It mine tranferable from Pennsylvania? What does it cost?

Shimpy 04-22-2013 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Biker Dog (Post 664464)
I have a CCW Permit in Pennsylvania, what must I do to get one in Florida? It mine tranferable from Pennsylvania? What does it cost?
Florida has a reciprocal agreement with states that issue Concealed Weapon Permits. I'd just keep your Penn. license active or apply for one here.

JoeC1947 04-22-2013 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AutoBike (Post 664442)
Run over by brother.
He just didn't have enough time to die from the gun shot wounds.

Ron1Z 04-22-2013 05:59 PM
I am an active law enforcement officer, and carry off duty often, as many of us do. I have been in the villages 5 times and do not carry. However when I leave the Villages I carry again. I am sure that TV has many retired law enforcement officers that carry as needed. Just my opinion.

blueash 04-22-2013 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by eremite06 (Post 664452)
OK, let's split hairs. Either way these two were going down.
No it is not splitting hairs. It speaks volumes about the ability of incredibly highly trained good guy with a gun, far more trained than anyone who needed a six hour course to get his carry license, to stop a bad guy with a gun. They didn't succeed in killing the suspects with what apparently were hundreds of shots. NYC cops in a massive shootout near the Empire State Bldg succeeded in hitting 9 civilians in addition to the suspect who was standing still only a few feet from the cops. The point I am making is that extremely well trained personnel miss a whole lot. The minimally trained 70 year old in a highly chaotic situation is not going to do nearly as well as the cops and soldiers. I am troubled by the contention that if only there had been bunched of armed civilians all unloading their weapons in the theater in Colorado all would be well. Far more likely they would have had a horrific circular firing squad shooting at each other and potentially increasing the carnage.

gustavo 04-22-2013 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 664493)
No it is not splitting hairs. It speaks volumes about the ability of incredibly highly trained good guy with a gun, far more trained than anyone who needed a six hour course to get his carry license, to stop a bad guy with a gun. They didn't succeed in killing the suspects with what apparently were hundreds of shots. NYC cops in a massive shootout near the Empire State Bldg succeeded in hitting 9 civilians in addition to the suspect. The point I am making is that extremely well trained personnel miss a whole lot. The minimally trained 70 year old in a highly chaotic situation is not going to do nearly as well as the cops and soldiers. I am troubled by the contention that if only there had been bunched of armed civilians all unloading their weapons in the theater in Colorado all would be well. Far more likely they would have had a horrific circular firing squad shooting at each other and potentially increasing the carnage.
This is why magazine limits are not a good idea.

Justjac 04-22-2013 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 664342)
everytime I see the phrase "need to carry in TV" it always reminds me of two things. One is it is a trick question. And secondly the person asking does not understand and most likely will not unsdrerstand or just won't undersatand the concept of concealed carry.

Does a police man need to carry a weapon in TV? By some the answer would be no. If that were the case should they remove their weapon when they are in TV? Or if they are assigned a patrol in TV do not take a weapon in the first place?

Non gun enthusiasts and especially anti gun advocates do not have the ability to understand. Doesn't mean they are wrong....they are just not able to, hence they tend to intellectualize the subject.

As presented many many times before, think of it as insurance. Some buy it, some don't. Some buy a lot and some a little. Some cover everything and others just need the basic coverages. There is no way to convince any one of them for the decision they made regarding whether to insure, how much to insure and where to insure. Based on some statistics for some incidents there is no need for insurance but folks still buy it.....JUST IN CASE.

JUST IN CASE......JUST IN CASE .....the very reason law enforcement carries a weapon regardless where they are......the very same reason some choose to carry a concealed weapon....If one cannot grasp or acknowledge that premise/concept.....all the jawboning is a waste of time.

It would do well for some to go take the Concelaed weapons course to do nothing more than gain an understanding of all that is taught about carrying a weapon.

I do like the one post above about the more dangerous residents being the ones behind the wheel here in TV....so very right and so much more potentially dangerous to us all than those with a CCWP.

Wait a minute.....:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:....OK now I am set!!

btk
Excellent post, Billethkid!

JUST EXCELLENT! Thanks for sharing....

eremite06 04-22-2013 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gustavo (Post 664502)
This is why magazine limits are not a good idea.
:agree: Collateral damage, unfortunately, is a fact of life or death, as it may. In the heat of the moment could you do any better than the LEO's?

All you "armchair quarterbacks" just sit back and judge the results of these gunfights. Let's put your life in the line of fire for a civil servant's pay and see how you react.

BTW, I've had my FL. CCW permit for 26 yrs.

OnTrack 04-22-2013 06:37 PM
I'm thinking about carrying in TV, just in case I get attacked......by a big dog in a restaurant.


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