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Old 04-03-2020, 10:42 AM
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Experts tell White House virus can spread through talking or even just breathing

(CNN)A prestigious scientific panel told the White House Wednesday night that research shows coronavirus can be spread not just by sneezes or coughs, but also just by talking, or possibly even just breathing.

"While the current [coronavirus] specific research is limited, the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing," according to the letter, written by Dr. Harvey Fineberg, chairman of a committee with the National Academy of Sciences.

Fineberg told CNN that he will wear start wearing a mask when he goes to the grocery store.

Coronavirus can spread through talking or breathing, prestigious panel tells White House - CNN

Based on what I have seen of villagers ignoring guidelines, I predict more than 1000 cases confirmed here sometime in April. White House will probably recommend some kind of mask when going out to shop etc. I agree, this stuff is more contagious than thought.

White House task force could soon recommend Americans wear masks - CNNPolitics
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Air has to flow through the filter material of the mask otherwise you will suffocate. If air passes though so will the virus.
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The mask requirement is long overdue.
All the information/data form Korea, Japan and China indicate masks are a significant contributor to flattening their curves.

The notion here in the USA that they are needed for the public to conserve supplies for the medical was/is not very good planning.

The companies that produce or are capable of producing should have been ordered to ramp up production for the inevitable call for masks.
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Air has to flow through the filter material of the mask otherwise you will suffocate. If air passes though so will the virus.
Right..thats why Doctors and nurses are using them, cuz they don't work.

Even a simple bandanna can help stop you from spreading or catching the virus.
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Right..thats why Doctors and nurses are using them, cuz they don't work.

Even a simple bandanna can help stop you from spreading or catching the virus.
Doctors and nurses are still getting sick so apparently masks don't work all that well.
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Droplets in the air.
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Doctors and nurses are still getting sick so apparently masks don't work all that well.
More the exposure to concentration of dense virus contaminants
in everything they come in contact with all day long.
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Doctors and nurses are still getting sick so apparently masks don't work all that well.
It probably helps but the reality is there's not too much in this world that's 100% except for the two things we all already know about.
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Right..thats why Doctors and nurses are using them, cuz they don't work.

Even a simple bandanna can help stop you from spreading or catching the virus.
Unless mask is a 95, anything else is false hope. The amount of staff that is become ill, is ongoing. Using their 95s more than one day is becoming common, to try to keep safe.
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Just wondering, what don’t I understand about the death rate? Worldwide from Worldometer 56987 died from this virus and 226000 recovered. That to me is 1 person died for every 4 who recovered, that includes all ages, every person in the world. This is more than 25% so how do they come up with a 4% etc death rate?
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Just wondering, what don’t I understand about the death rate? Worldwide from Worldometer 56987 died from this virus and 226000 recovered. That to me is 1 person died for every 4 who recovered, that includes all ages, every person in the world. This is more than 25% so how do they come up with a 4% etc death rate?



using your numbers.........it's 20%, not 25%.


the 4% comes from total cases since 80% are mild cases


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And mild cases are not considered recovered cases? Not arguing just trying to understand. These are cases with ‘outcomes’ so maybe the mild cases are not included, and you are right 20%.

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And mild cases are not considered recovered cases? Not arguing just trying to understand.

"They" determined a case is mild and will recover with high probability.




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Sorry, but it is not some kind of statistical manipulation by scientists trying to fool you. There is an additional number that you didn't present. There are three categories. One is death, two is recovered meaning you are completely well, and third which is the largest group is still ill. That third group can go either way, die or get better. On the Johns Hopkins dashboard at this moment:

Total cases abt 1,100,000
Deaths 59,000
Recovered 225,000

Not shown is that third group, still being observed which would be abt 816,000.

The overall death rate is 59000/1100000 = .0536 or 5.36%
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Sorry, but it is not some kind of statistical manipulation by scientists trying to fool you. There is an additional number that you didn't present. There are three categories. One is death, two is recovered meaning you are completely well, and third which is the largest group is still ill. That third group can go either way, die or get better. On the Johns Hopkins dashboard at this moment:

Total cases abt 1,100,000
Deaths 59,000
Recovered 225,000

Not shown is that third group, still being observed which would be abt 816,000.

The overall death rate is 59000/1100000 = .0536 or 5.36%
You forgot about the 4th category, asymptomatic cases that are never diagnosed or counted. People that catch it, have no symptoms, don't get sick, are never counted. Estimates of this number are 10 times documented cases, which drops your death rate to .5%
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