So you never go to a gas station to fill your ICE car?

Well, take another example. A police department bought one to test the idea. The chief said a year later than it paid for itself in less than a year compared to the standard ICE cruiser and they had plans to immediately buy more.

That is a pretty harsh real-life example.

We travel 1325 miles one way twice per year. You know what you can do with electric cars don't you?

Nobody can answer why are taxpayers subsidizing wealthy people's luxury car purchases?

Yep. I go to the gas station, but I don't haveto set my alarm or look at an app to see if it's available!!

I think at this point, until recharging stations are everywhere and it can be done in the same time it takes to gas up, instead of hours, I think I'll pass. a nice car to have for local trips I'm sure, but at this point wouldn't make a lot of sense to me.

Many EVs have depreciation issues. Teslas do not. Choose wisely.

Tesla Model 3 Three-Year Depreciation Is 10%: EV Industry Average Is 52%

Not according to the real world example set in this thread. He lost 4 times that amount.

Again, if these are such a deal why are my tax dollars needed for the purchases? Buy your luxury car with your own money.

The Government is in the business of choosing winners and losers. You can either go with the flow or complain. Why do you think today is any different than the past? BTW, the average new car price is about $40K. There are several EVs that are available for that price so it would be wrong to characterize all EVs as "wealthy people's luxury car purchases". EVs from Tesla, the market leader, are not subsidized anymore - the subsidy ran out.

That was one cherry picked example. Did you read the reference I provided? Model 3s, which the reference I provided was primarily focused on, are better than Model X and Model S with respect to depreciation. Who said they were a "deal"? And I will take advantage of any and all tax breaks that the Government sees fit to provide me, thank you very much.

I don't have anything against electric cars.

I desperately wanted to support electric when buying a golf cart, but ultimately went with gas powered (for all the reasons endlessly debated before).

I keep vehicles for a long time. I was uncomfortable with the idea of replacing batteries (the expense, the warranty, etc.). Most of this is the curse of being middle class. If I had more resources, I would be all over these new electric vehicles.

It seems there is a love hate relationship with Tesla/ EVs
They’re not for everyone and trying to convince EV haters is a waste of time. I have never spoken to a Tesla owner who is not in love with the car and looks forward to driving it everyday. EVs are the way of the future and all OEMS are going that way in the not too distant future.

Tesla is the best EV out there hands down no other car comes close and every day and every update the car gets better!

After battery top off, additional fee to remain in parking spot
 

[B][BI was wondering about that too. Unless there is a disincentive for remaining in the spot after charging is complete (i.e. added fee for continuing to park), this will continue to happen. Same at a hotel, parking garage etc. Otherwise these fully charged vehicles are taking a space that another electric vehicle might otherwise use.

Additionally, I have seen non electric vehicles parking in charging spaces simply because its closer to the hotel entrance. In front of the sign that indicates "parking for EV's".

Another consideration: Unless this this infrastructure bill has provisions for high speed charging either plug-in or magnetic like some buses, it will be a while before you can convince the public to go electric. Charging will have to be equivalent to about the time it takes to fill the gas tank. The technology is there.

What about charging stations at rest stops & all gas stations too?

Not that I would ever buy one but to leave MA to take the 20 hour drive down, how much longer would it take. Also, no different than an electric golf cart, if the batteries die and you are not near a charger, what do you do. Come 2 AM how hard is it to find a charger. I will stay with gas.

His was not a model 3, but you hat Telsas we got it. Don't buy one, please.