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sunnyatlast 01-14-2015 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jbdlfan (Post 995430)
Ok, if you don't see what your kid is doing in school, that's YOUR fault, not the teacher, district or state. Whether you like it or not, digital textbooks and computerized testing is here to stay. I for one, as a teacher, absolutely love the digital textbooks. Students now get real video footage to go with print media that can be viewed outside of class time. I can now focus my energy with the students on synthesizing that information in my classroom. Much more efficient and effective for instruction. I teach a "flipped" classroom and found it the best way yet instruct the students of today. My kids Tweet and post Facebook and Instagram answers in my class.

I agree with you. What I was talking about is beware of the capacity for all the e-textbooks and testing answers to be stored in the cloud, with access only by federal bureaucrats hellbent on imposing p****** ideology.

tomwed 01-14-2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jbdlfan (Post 995430)
Ok, if you don't see what your kid is doing in school, that's YOUR fault, not the teacher, district or state. Whether you like it or not, digital textbooks and computerized testing is here to stay. I for one, as a teacher, absolutely love the digital textbooks. Students now get real video footage to go with print media that can be viewed outside of class time. I can now focus my energy with the students on synthesizing that information in my classroom. Much more efficient and effective for instruction. I teach a "flipped" classroom and found it the best way yet instruct the students of today. My kids Tweet and post Facebook and Instagram answers in my class.

I was a media specialist in charge of technology before I retired. When I first learned about the Kahn Academy I thought about the same idea. I think you get help from the teacher but you learn on your own. I wondered what would happen if the student watched the math lesson at home and did the homework at school with teachers jumping in to answer question when needed, a teaching moment. Years ago we use to say that the "teacher should not be a sage on the stage but rather a guide at you side".

The most important lesson to teach is how to teach yourself. Your strategy seems just right.

Facebook concerns me. The technology is great but I don't like the privacy factor.

I use to have classes in the library where no talking was allowed only chatting online. It was interesting to see otherwise quiet students being more verbal.

I was against ipads in my district. They may be fine for little ones but I was pushing for chromebooks that cost much less. I lost the argument back then but I think I was just ahead of the curve. And I wanted wi-fi in the library, the cafe and the auditorium only. I like networking the students, teachers and server in the classroom but having the kids online in the classroom is just too tempting a distraction. I like the teacher controlling the content. I also like how chromebooks update themselves and impervious to malware. They also function as e readers, calculators and you can't install games.

I agree that parents need to see what the children are reading and would also like to see the parents read the same books on their chromebooks too. I think the dinner conversation or anytime conversation would be fruitful and engaging.

Let me know if I can help you. Helping teachers was the best part of my job. They are so appreciative and often overwhelmed with the technology because of time constraints caused by writing reports. There were not as many reports back in the day.

senior citizen 01-15-2015 05:21 AM

Yes
 
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Originally Posted by ejp52 (Post 995224)
Read both,very good reads and sadly a possibility in today's world!


Yes, it really makes one think. We are all so fortunate & blessed to live in this country.......but our present reality could be altered in a flash.

Not too many would survive without the common everyday necessities that many take for granted. Our comfort levels would greatly diminish, followed by our quality of life itself.

These books are a definite wake up call. Many of the "doomsday preppers" may seem far out with their underground bunkers, but how long would any of us survive without WATER...........especially in a hot climate. Or, without electricity.

Apparently (I was just informed) our Vermont town would still have water (which is gravity fed from the treatment plant up on the mountain)......so at least we could rehydrate any stock of m.r.e.'s or cook our regular food, bathe, wash clothes, use the toilet, etc.

Obviously, our freezers would lose their electricity.......so that stuff would have to somehow be cooked up quickly on the barbecue grill until the propane ran out...........but we could at least share with our neighbors...........but even with three freezers, that wouldn't last long......................the scary part is for those who are dependent on insulin, or other pharmaceuticals......many of which need to be kept cold...........again, the first book is an eye opener...........can't wait to read the second.

I always keep a full pantry; especially during the winter........so canned goods would be a Godsend.......but many things such as pasta need water to prepare..........rice needs water......etc. Soups are a good mainstay to insure survival. Beans, lentils, etc.

(The supermarket shelves would be stripped clean in days; those prepared will survive......those who scoffed at stocking up on water, food, necessities, TOILET PAPER.......well, they will be at the mercy of others as the government will not be able to help all....or even some.)

For two days in a row, we had the deer family (mother & two little ones) "grazing" under the snow in the location where the apple blossom tree used to be..........memory I guess. Sad to think that they might have to be food "if" it ever happened.........this morning they were here at 5 a.m.

Thought provoking, for sure. Great minds think alike ! Let's hope it never ever ever occurs........but with crazy foreign dictator types, one never truly knows.

Also, you guys out there might realize that your MODERN CARS will NOT operate.........anything computerized will be zapped by an electro magnetic pulse aimed at our nation.........so all of the "hippy types" who kept their old clunkers.....will be cruising around in vans or cars or trucks from the 1970's. Everyone else will be walking......or riding their horses into town.

Anyway, two great books for sure..........just to increase awareness.

Greg Nelson 01-15-2015 07:19 AM

All it would take is for some radical to get on their non traceable phone and start calling in bomb threats. Call airports, schools, UPS, trains, etc, etc....wait a few days and do it again and again..ugly thought

tedquick 01-15-2015 11:27 AM

This thread has gotten slightly off topic but the attached site that I just received a few minutes ago, might return it to its original intent. As you read this just keep in mind that everything has a beginning. And here is the beginning. Muslim Call to Prayer to be Chanted Every Friday at Duke University - Breitbart

tedquick 01-15-2015 05:21 PM

First it was, but then it wasn't. Duke has withdrawn their commitment to the Muslims.

Duke backs down, cancels Muslim call to prayer from chapel tower | Fox News

tomwed 01-15-2015 05:33 PM

Could ISIS ever take over our schools in America? Is it even conceivable? I wonder.
After reading the opinions and doing the research, what is you conclusion?

Rags123 01-15-2015 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 996013)
Could ISIS ever take over our schools in America? Is it even conceivable? I wonder.
After reading the opinions and doing the research, what is you conclusion?

Frankly, I fear the moral decay in this country more than anyone taking over the schools.

I also find it alarming what our own country is doing to us. We just released a number (5) of terrorist prisoners from GTMO and sent them to Yemen and neighboring countries. Just sent them to the center of the terrorist activity.

We need a real moral change in this country because before anyone can enter our schools, we will destroy ourselves. THAT is what we should be discussing and worrying about.

Rags123 01-15-2015 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tedquick (Post 996009)
First it was, but then it wasn't. Duke has withdrawn their commitment to the Muslims.

Duke backs down, cancels Muslim call to prayer from chapel tower | Fox News

BUT for all the wrong reasons.

"Duke University has reversed its decision to allow a Muslim call to prayer to sound from a campus chapel bell tower, school officials announced Thursday.

Plans changed because the Durham, North Carolina, school's effort to "unify was not having the intended effect," Michael Schoenfeld, vice president for public affairs and government relations, said in a statement.

"Duke remains committed to fostering an inclusive, tolerant and welcoming campus for all of its students," Schoenfeld said."


Duke reverses decision to allow Muslim call to prayer - CNN.com

This is a private university that receives MILLIONS OF DOLLARS in United States Federal Grants, and I feel confident that if the Jewish faith requested a signal for prayer, or the Catholic Church requested such a thing, the yelling and screaming would be heard everywhere.

This is the same country that within 24 hours of terrorists from YEMEN attacked and killed in France, releases 5 terrorists from GTMO and sent them back to their home country of YEMEN.

We are becoming so weak and dependent on our federal government that we cannot resist or do not want to resist any longer.

tedquick 01-16-2015 05:32 PM

A simple "yes"!
 
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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 996013)
Could ISIS ever take over our schools in America? Is it even conceivable? I wonder.
After reading the opinions and doing the research, what is you conclusion?

It will happen a step at a time.

You may or may not find my answer interesting, but I am concerned for America. While I am unable to either prove or disprove definitively that a certain part of Dearborn, MI is already operating under Sharia Law, logic suggests that there must be some level of truth to the eRumor. While it could be a complete fabrication it was more likely based on at least some degree of factual information. So instead of discounting it completely let’s dig deeper.

Here is a Reuters 1/10/12 story which reported that Oklahoma's "Save Our State Amendment," which was approved by 70 percent of state voters in 2010 that would bar Oklahoma state courts from considering or using Sharia law, was essentially laughed at by the court. A federal appeals court upheld an injunction against the voter-approved ban, saying it likely violated the U.S. Constitution by discriminating against religion.

Then this from a Kansas City newspaper from May 25, 2012, where the governor signed a bill banning Sharia Law in its courts: “Legislators supporting the bill said there were many cases around the country where judges or state agencies cited sharia law in deciding cases, especially involving divorce-related custody and property matters where Islamic code differs from U.S. law.” It goes on to say, “About 20 states have considered similar legislation but the Kansas law is the only one signed in recent weeks, council spokesman Ibrahim Hooper said.”

Here are just a couple other frightening facts I uncovered during my dig: there are 22 “no-go” zones in 9 different states and there are 35 Muslim training camps. Check out the book “Twilight in America” by Martin Mawyer and the Christian Action Network @ Christian Action Network.

Google Kitty Werthmann to find out what will happen to America unless we wake up and take the ISIS/Muslim ideology seriously. While Snopes.com attempts to discredit her by calling her writing “undetermined”, TruthOrFiction supports the truth of who she is and that she did indeed write the piece.

Rags123 01-16-2015 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tedquick (Post 996498)
It will happen a step at a time.

You may or may not find my answer interesting, but I am concerned for America. While I am unable to either prove or disprove definitively that a certain part of Dearborn, MI is already operating under Sharia Law, logic suggests that there must be some level of truth to the eRumor. While it could be a complete fabrication it was more likely based on at least some degree of factual information. So instead of discounting it completely let’s dig deeper.

Here is a Reuters 1/10/12 story which reported that Oklahoma's "Save Our State Amendment," which was approved by 70 percent of state voters in 2010 that would bar Oklahoma state courts from considering or using Sharia law, was essentially laughed at by the court. A federal appeals court upheld an injunction against the voter-approved ban, saying it likely violated the U.S. Constitution by discriminating against religion.

Then this from a Kansas City newspaper from May 25, 2012, where the governor signed a bill banning Sharia Law in its courts: “Legislators supporting the bill said there were many cases around the country where judges or state agencies cited sharia law in deciding cases, especially involving divorce-related custody and property matters where Islamic code differs from U.S. law.” It goes on to say, “About 20 states have considered similar legislation but the Kansas law is the only one signed in recent weeks, council spokesman Ibrahim Hooper said.”

Here are just a couple other frightening facts I uncovered during my dig: there are 22 “no-go” zones in 9 different states and there are 35 Muslim training camps. Check out the book “Twilight in America” by Martin Mawyer and the Christian Action Network @ Christian Action Network.

Google Kitty Werthmann to find out what will happen to America unless we wake up and take the ISIS/Muslim ideology seriously. While Snopes.com attempts to discredit her by calling her writing “undetermined”, TruthOrFiction supports the truth of who she is and that she did indeed write the piece.

I would need to see real evidence of actual approved NO GO ZONES in America. Yes, there are those type zones in local areas but not with offical blessings and certainly not to the degree which you are presenting.

I KNOW you are wrong on Dearborn and have shown that to be an urban legend. Only one incident that I can see with any authority an that was caused by a christian group showing up uninvited to a muslim gathering and chanting at them. They, the christians, were arrested and on the internet that became some kind of muslim attacking christians when in fact the christians began the trouble and were the only trouble.

I am one who sees danger and have said so, but to just say things, to me, is not acceptable at all. Without any supporting links I find this just the kind of stuff you can find on the internet. Actually, you can find sites that support alien life on earth as well.

Not making light or fun. I am just saying that while I, and have said so on here, have a distinct fear of some moves being made in the muslim neighborhood, I think it very irresponsible to simply say things that you have no way of proving with acceptable links or some kind of accreditation I am referring to NEWS links, not links that have an agenda and report anything that will fulfill that agenda, no matter the facts.

quirky3 01-16-2015 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rags123 (Post 996505)
I would need to see real evidence of actual approved NO GO ZONES in America. Yes, there are those type zones in local areas but not with offical blessings and certainly not to the degree which you are presenting.

I KNOW you are wrong on Dearborn and have shown that to be an urban legend. Only one incident that I can see with any authority an that was caused by a christian group showing up uninvited to a muslim gathering and chanting at them. They, the christians, were arrested and on the internet that became some kind of muslim attacking christians when in fact the christians began the trouble and were the only trouble.

I am one who sees danger and have said so, but to just say things, to me, is not acceptable at all. Without any supporting links I find this just the kind of stuff you can find on the internet. Actually, you can find sites that support alien life on earth as well.

Not making light or fun. I am just saying that while I, and have said so on here, have a distinct fear of some moves being made in the muslim neighborhood, I think it very irresponsible to simply say things that you have no way of proving with acceptable links or some kind of accreditation I am referring to NEWS links, not links that have an agenda and report anything that will fulfill that agenda, no matter the facts.

Excellent and important points!

pivo 01-16-2015 07:41 PM

Yes we are going to lose our schools, colleges, churches and our freedom. strong
statement, but very,very true We are losing everything we fought for to make this the greatest country in the world, And we are gradually losing like a apreading cancer

I posted this twice before , I got some negative remarks. so hear goes again

goggle " demographics of muslims in america" that is the answer to losinf
everything in this country, for the last 15 years it's been going their way but now it's in high gear. please read

Rags123 01-16-2015 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pivo (Post 996544)
Yes we are going to lose our schools, colleges, churches and our freedom. strong
statement, but very,very true We are losing everything we fought for to make this the greatest country in the world, And we are gradually losing like a apreading cancer

I posted this twice before , I got some negative remarks. so hear goes again

goggle " demographics of muslims in america" that is the answer to losinf
everything in this country, for the last 15 years it's been going their way but now it's in high gear. please read

It is very difficult for me to respond to this kind of post. Over the years on TOTV, I have expressed fear of groups, people, etc..BUT in each case I expressed WHY I feared them and gave some background on which I made that decision to be afraid.

I did what you asked...not sure what you want me to find. Hispanic is the largest and fastest growing demographic in the country, so it must not be the speed of growth.

Listen, I have fear of parts of this evolving story, but anything I fear is based on investigation and facts.

I respectfully respect that if this concerns you, that you post something specific with some validation because making such generalizations as you are doing is just not sufficient to have a conversation about.

Radical Islam concerns me as well as you, but I cannot make such general statements that you are making....I believe the only way to address a problem is a discussion laced with FACTS.

I might add that if your fear is Islamic law....then I share it BUT I refer to it as a group refusing to become Americans...assimilate....and I have that concern for our Spanish speaking illegals as well. I also share, if I read you correctly, your fear of how open our borders are becoming for reasons that make no sense. We seem destined to be ruled by Pol.....L reasoning. If that was not the case, why are we so strict on our Canadian neighbors ? I think, and I know we are not supposed to say it, but I still think all of this is POL.....L !!! It feels now like a train running down hill that we cannot stop....and we do have elections to stop any such train.

pivo 01-16-2015 08:23 PM

Your right Rags, as far as them not becoming americans, but the facts and figures are there. as far as taking over countries like France, Germany, England, Canada, their are more mosque in England than churches, on and on, some people don't want to believe this could happen to us but it is,, We are in a 15 round fight with them, we are in about the 5th round, we are getting weaker and they are getting stronger much stronger. face facts

tedquick 01-16-2015 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rags123 (Post 996505)
I would need to see real evidence of actual approved NO GO ZONES in America. Yes, there are those type zones in local areas but not with offical blessings and certainly not to the degree which you are presenting.

I KNOW you are wrong on Dearborn and have shown that to be an urban legend. Only one incident that I can see with any authority an that was caused by a christian group showing up uninvited to a muslim gathering and chanting at them. They, the christians, were arrested and on the internet that became some kind of muslim attacking christians when in fact the christians began the trouble and were the only trouble.

I am one who sees danger and have said so, but to just say things, to me, is not acceptable at all. Without any supporting links I find this just the kind of stuff you can find on the internet. Actually, you can find sites that support alien life on earth as well.

Not making light or fun. I am just saying that while I, and have said so on here, have a distinct fear of some moves being made in the muslim neighborhood, I think it very irresponsible to simply say things that you have no way of proving with acceptable links or some kind of accreditation I am referring to NEWS links, not links that have an agenda and report anything that will fulfill that agenda, no matter the facts.

I actually agree with your post. However, if you were to read, at least from the references that I made in my prior post and investigate from there I think you would reach the same conclusion that I have. You’ll see more than a smoking gun. From having read many of your posts I believe that if you read what I have read and referenced you’d end up just where I am. Then read Kitty Werthmann’s piece. If you don’t share her and my concerns then I frankly give up.

And I have NO idea what you mean by “there are those type zones in local areas but not with official blessings . . . .”. Recognizing that there are simply those zones is all that is needed. No one has to officially bless anything to make them a threat to you, me and the rest of America. Would they suddenly become more dangerous if we “officially blessed/acknowledged” them? And I *may* be wrong on Dearborn, but I certainly don’t think that it was all made up. Clichéomatically (a college buddy of mine came up with that word) speaking: “where there’s smoke there’s normally (sic) fire”.

I actually think that you and I are on the same page, you just want more proof. I've seen enough to convince me that there is a problem. You and I simply disagree by degree.

xNYer 01-16-2015 10:15 PM

Muslims in Ameria
 
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Originally Posted by pivo (Post 996544)
Yes we are going to lose our schools, colleges, churches and our freedom. strong
statement, but very,very true We are losing everything we fought for to make this the greatest country in the world, And we are gradually losing like a apreading cancer

I posted this twice before , I got some negative remarks. so hear goes again

goggle " demographics of muslims in america" that is the answer to losinf
everything in this country, for the last 15 years it's been going their way but now it's in high gear. please read


I googled "demographics of Muslims in America"....what was it that you found alarming with the results?

pivo 01-16-2015 10:38 PM

NYer There are a number of articles listed, Obviously you haven't read the ones where they are just on the way to control all of the countries population wise. If you didn't find anything alarming, you didn't read the same articles.

VT2TV 01-17-2015 01:28 AM

I do not discount anything that may happen, because not one of us can know the answer, only spectulate. Is this something I am worried about at the present-no. But one thing I could worry about is that something bad will happen of any kind, and there will be those who will refuse to be concerned, and will refuse to admit what is happening. We are starting to see something like that being done this very day by releasing known terrorist from confinement back to their ground zero so to speak. I only hope we all don't regret that.


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