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kkingston57 10-22-2020 03:33 PM

If this is correct, my best guess is that that there are less deaths attributable to auto accidents or other types of accident. Clearly there were a lot less people on the road.

coffeebean 10-22-2020 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1851070)
Before responding to my post, try reading it.
To make it easier, I will summarize for you. I said I wear my mask ..............never mind. Some folks would rather hide under their beds than reason with logic.
I noticed that you singled out only one line that you seemed to take offense with. By your logic(?) I would have to wear a mask all the time during flu season, also. I am not going to pretend that I am going to coddle folks in their hysteria over this illness. I do not wear a mask during flu season either, and do not intend to UNLESS I have the flu or unless it is mandated. If that offends folks, oh well. Like I said in my post, which seems to have been skipped over, I wear a mask when I feel it is necessary or when a business requests wearing one in order to shop in their store. If I feel it is necessary, I will also wear gloves and eye protection. I maintain my distance when I am able and if not I move along as expeditiously as possible. I don't apologize for giving the appearance of a cold shoulder to those that feel it important to them to demand others "protect" them. It's not my duty or responsibility to "protect" folks that can easily protect themselves. It is not my fault if they wish to walk out into traffic or swim with the sharks. Sorry for not being sorry.
I do not run and get myself tested for COVID when I do not have ANY symptoms. It is a waste of time and money, as well as using up a test that might be needed elsewhere. Hey, like I said before if I become infected and pass, you can say "I told you so." If you wish to protect me, stay at home. If you wish for me to protect you, stay at home. There, for those that need it stated once more my advice and my offer of protection extends only as far as suggesting that you stay at home if you wish a guarantee of being safe.

I did read your entire post before I responded. What struck me were the comments I highlighted and I responded to those comments. I am glad to see you do wear mask when it is requested. That is the least we can all do to do our part.

xNYer 10-22-2020 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1848549)
Year to date, the death rate in the US is 8.880/1,000. That is an increase over the 8.782/1,000 rate from 2019. However the increase is the smallest year to year increase in the last five years. With so many deaths being attributed to the Coronavirus, why wasn’t there an uptick in the death rate in 2020? A logical answer would be that the vast majority of Covid coded deaths were with Covid, not from Covid and many of those people would have died even if they had not contracted the virus.

Where did you get this information.

biker1 10-22-2020 05:05 PM

The facts are that nobody really knows where it started and there is much speculation about a number of possible sources, including China. Spain has not been seriously considered as a starting point. The "Spanish Flu" is just a moniker.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1849074)
Improvements in medical science could explain some of that difference. Also, even though the US responded slower to CV than other countries, the US may have responded even slower and not as well during the Spanish Flu. Which, interestingly, was really started in Kansas, but got misnamed by the US Government. Funny how History never corrected that mistake?


Swoop 10-23-2020 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by chet2020 (Post 1851060)
Suicide rate is unchanged in 2020. Here is my source, what is yours? In fact, what are your sources for the rest of your claims?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...mic-unchanged/

You post a link to a newspaper article about a completely non scientific “study” by 2 doctors, looking at suicides in one state. This is what the CDC says:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...mm6932a1-H.pdf

Swoop 10-23-2020 07:01 AM

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Swoop 10-23-2020 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 1851098)
If this is correct, my best guess is that that there are less deaths attributable to auto accidents or other types of accident. Clearly there were a lot less people on the road.

From NHTSA:
“The FARS data indicate that an estimated 8,870 people died in motor vehicle traffic crashes in the second quarter of 2020, a decrease of about 3.3% compared to the second quarter of 2019, which translates into 302 fewer fatalities as compared to the same period in 2019.Oct 1, 2020”
Hardly offsets 220,000 “Coronavirus deaths”...


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