[Swoop]

Year to date, the death rate in the US is 8.880/1,000. That is an increase over the 8.782/1,000 rate from 2019. However the increase is the smallest year to year increase in the last five years. With so many deaths being attributed to the Coronavirus, why wasn’t there an uptick in the death rate in 2020? A logical answer would be that the vast majority of Covid coded deaths were with Covid, not from Covid and many of those people would have died even if they had not contracted the virus.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Year to date, the death rate in the US is 8.880/1,000. That is an increase over the 8.782/1,000 rate from 2019. However the increase is the smallest year to year increase in the last five years. With so many deaths being attributed to the Coronavirus, why wasn’t there an uptick in the death rate in 2020? A logical answer would be that the vast majority of Covid coded deaths were with Covid, not from Covid and many of those people would have died even if they had not contracted the virus.

Fewer people going to work = fewer work-related deaths.
Fewer people travelling for leisure = fewer people dying while on vacation.
Fewer people leaving their homes to drive on their daily routines = fewer people in car accidents resulting in death.
Fewer people leaving their houses at all = fewer gang-related drive-by shootings.
It also means fewer criminals breaking into homes, since they don't know if death is on the other side of the door.

People are afraid to live their normal lives, and other people are cautiously living a life adjusted to reduce the risk of catching a deadly illness. It means there are fewer people out and about, moving targets for death.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Fewer people going to work = fewer work-related deaths.
Fewer people travelling for leisure = fewer people dying while on vacation.
Fewer people leaving their homes to drive on their daily routines = fewer people in car accidents resulting in death.
Fewer people leaving their houses at all = fewer gang-related drive-by shootings.
It also means fewer criminals breaking into homes, since they don't know if death is on the other side of the door.

People are afraid to live their normal lives, and other people are cautiously living a life adjusted to reduce the risk of catching a deadly illness. It means there are fewer people out and about, moving targets for death.

Automobile accident deaths are down, but suicides are up, drug related deaths are up people who died who were unable to have necessary surgery & people died who were unable to be diagnosed are all up. And murders are actually up in 2020.

[billethkid]

Then.......... there should be an increase of deaths at home vs normal at home death rate

An increase in deaths 5 miles or less from home?

There are only so many slices in the pie no matter how one cuts it.

[JoelJohnson]

U.S. Death Rate 1950-2020 | MacroTrends

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Then.......... there should be an increase of deaths at home vs normal at home death rate

An increase in deaths 5 miles or less from home?

There are only so many slices in the pie no matter how one cuts it.

Exactly, the cause of death can be manipulated, but dead is dead. The Coronavirus has been compared to the Spanish Flu, but the death rate in the US increased by 31% the first year the Spanish Flu effected the US. Yet in 2020 there hasn’t been an uptick in deaths despite this pandemic...

[jebartle]

We are not finished yet!

[graciegirl]

Mortality Analyses - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

[Bogie Shooter]

Yep, that COVID is all just a hoax , as some are led to believe.

[Two Bills]

With.
From.
The operative word is Because.

Originally Posted by Swoop

Year to date, the death rate in the US is 8.880/1,000. That is an increase over the 8.782/1,000 rate from 2019. However the increase is the smallest year to year increase in the last five years. With so many deaths being attributed to the Coronavirus, why wasn’t there an uptick in the death rate in 2020? A logical answer would be that the vast majority of Covid coded deaths were with Covid, not from Covid and many of those people would have died even if they had not contracted the virus.

I think you make a good point. I think a breakdown of the change in the way deaths occurred year over year would be useful as hospitals weren’t overburdened last year as they are this.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Yep, that COVID is all just a hoax , as some are led to believe.

IMO it’s not hoax, but not as deadly as some are lead to believe. If so, there would be millions dead and billion infected already. Any virus will be deadly serious on weak, old, and even low % to young healthy. So, anybody with brain will take precautions.

The virus has turned into war for votes. Just like Russian as China get out of jail free card. Funny how we never heard anything about China trying to change our country political process.

I recommend China in focus on utube to get idea what’s going on in world today which most National media Somehow fail to report.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Mortality Analyses - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

That’s based on the number of cases that are coded as Coronavirus deaths in the US. The more you code as Covid, the higher the percentage. But if all those deaths were caused by the virus, then we would have seen a spike in the US death rate in 2020. Based on the numbers you provided in the link, we would have seen an increase of more than 20%. But we didn’t.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

With.
From.
The operative word is Because.

No, not because. If those people died “because” of the virus, the death rate would have spiked up in 2020. There was actually a lower percentage increase than in the prior 5 years.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Yep, that COVID is all just a hoax , as some are led to believe.

Covid is not a hoax, Covid is very real, it is also really overblown...