100% Agree with your post. I hope for a genius to come up with an idea to at least cut down on the amount of hand guns in the hands of convicted criminals, that would be a start. :crap2:

Actually i did not advocate having all guns taken away.. I advocated we adopt laws similiar to those on Israel...

Actually you must pass 2 tests to drive a car... the same is not required to own a gun.

1) yes the weapon was an automatic as opposed to a revolver.
2) No where did I advocate taking away anyones rights ...just plane common sense
a) waiting period
b) training required
c) all guns sold only with locks
d) your unlocked gun stolen, and used in crime you do the time...

Hand guns come in two types: Revolvers and Semi-Automatics
There is a waiting period if you do not have a permit.
I could go for mandatory training. Military service serves as training also.
All new guns are now sold with locks in most cases already.
You cannot put someone in jail because your stolen gun was used in a crime (Unconstitutional)
All bad laws today usually seemed like common sense at the time.

PS: Semi-automatic pistols are some times called auto-loaders.

[QUOTE=RayinPenn;858328]1) yes the weapon was an automatic as opposed to a revolver.

NO, an automatic would fire until empty by just holding back the trigger. A semi-automatic must have the trigger pulled each time to fire. You won't ever find an automatic pistol. A revolver will also fire each time the trigger is pulled back. Gun haters always get it wrong. They are against these mechanical things which they have no idea how they work.

[quote=Shimpy;858353]There is a 9 mm Uzi (Probably spelled wrong) which I believe is manufactured in full auto. I would classify it as a pistol.

[quote=Steve9930;858356]Yes, a machine pistol, but what are the chances of finding one laying in the street?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzi Does that really look like a pistol to you?

The average citizen seeing a gun that isn't a revolver will be 99.999% times a semi-auto.

[quote=Shimpy;858366]I do believe it is classified in the pistol category. No I doubt you'll find one in the street but you never know now days what is in the street.....:loco:

All about handguns.
 

Okay, folks............

Let's take a little break for a brief review on firearms.

Clearly the original poster does not understand the distinction between automatic firearms and semi-automatic (or auto-loading) firearms.

Since he did not find a revolver, or a single-shot handgun it was probably a semi-automatic. That means it fires one time, and only one time for each pull of the trigger.

However, a couple of posters have stated that there are no full automatic pistols. This, too, is incorrect. I invite you to look at the line of "broomhandle" Mausers. This pistol comes in several versions. It is a very versatile pistol.

There is a model which has a selector switch which will permit it to be fired either semi-automatically or as a fully automatic pistol where one pull of the trigger, when held back, will fire several rounds or even empty the magazine.

There are models which have built in magazines which are loaded from the top with a "clip" of cartridges. There are models that accept loaded magazines.

It was commonplace for some Mausers to be carried in wooden holsters which could be attached to the handle of the pistol as a stock so the gun could be fired from the shoulder.

Rather than try to post a series of photos, I am leaving a link to images of the broomhandle Mauser. You may see some with a red 9 engraved on the handle. These were converted from their original lower cartridge size to 9MM.

https://www.google.com/search?q=maus...iw=800&bih=499

Further, surely you have heard about many of the "gangster" machine pistols, such as the MAC-10. There are actually many more. In fact, dozens more. See Category:Machine pistols - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Now, moving on............ the Uzi, and many others on the list linked above, is entirely too heavy to be used effectively as a one-handed pistol. It weighs 7 and three quarters pounds. And with a standard 32 round magazine it is entirely too bulky to haul around on your person. During my career in the Secret Service the Uzi was our intermediate range shoulder weapon.

That's all. Just thought I'd clear up a little confusion on firearms nomenclature.

More guns save lives.
 

You appear to have all the Brady anti-gun lobby figures close at hand, but as Dr. Boogie points out, the incidence of shootings you list is .000303% of the population. Clearly, every incident is tragic, but there are much higher figures for many classes of avoidable deaths.

You speak of the LIRR shooting with 20 shot and 6 killed. I point you to the Luby's Restaurant massacre where 50 people were shot and 26 were killed. Would you like to know why the death toll was so high? It was because a highly trained pistol marksman, Suzanna Hupp, had left her handgun in her car and was unable to engage the killer in a gunfight.

In response to the massacre, the Texas Legislature in 1995 passed a shall-issue gun law, which requires that all qualifying applicants be issued a Concealed Handgun License.

The law had been campaigned for by Suzanna Hupp, who was present at the time of the massacre where both of her parents were shot and killed. She later expressed regret about deciding to leave her gun in her car lest she risk possibly running afoul of the state's concealed weapons laws; during the shootings, she reached for her weapon but then remembered that it was "a hundred feet away in my car." She testified across the country in support of concealed handgun laws, and was elected to the Texas House of Representatives in 1996. The law was signed by then-Governor George W. Bush.

HERE'S THE POINT. IF THERE HAD BEEN MORE (LEGAL) GUNS ON THE LIRR CAR THAT NIGHT IT IS LIKELY THAT MANY OF THOSE UNNECESSARY DEATHS AND WOUNDINGS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED.

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Thanks for the info.

Banning firearms will only keep the honest people honest. Those that want them will get them regardless of any law.

I just completed re-reading all 5 pages of this thread.

No one in any post was advocating the banning of guns!

I also reiterate my statement that if someone wants to legally carry a pistol in The Villages, there is nothing to stop them from doing it. It is 100% unnecessary and probably a danger to yourself and others but if you do it all legally, fine with me.

Someone posted to me that I must stay in The Villages all the time and never venture out to Wildwood or Orlando so I would not feel the need to be armed. Well, I certainly never would go to certain parts of Wildwood or Orlando at any time of the day nor would I walk their streets at night. I have no need to do that. I do go to Winter Park at night and it is a great place and a safe place - as long as you stay in the well travelled areas. Use common sense and you do not need to carry a pistol - my thought.

Driving a car is not a right protected by our constitution.