Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 2237672)

First, I believe the people that were screaming defund the police really want retraining of the police and that requires more funding.
As far as crime a lot of crimes either comes from poverty, despair and just outright stupidity.
Maybe a TV campaign showing how most crimes are committed by morons would send a message.
You no longer want to be married, in the long run it's cheaper to get a divorce than turning to murder.
When it comes to stealing, get it through their thick skulls if you steal a million and get caught you will probably spend 10 years in jail. If you have half a brain, you can earn more than a million in the same amount of time and enjoy your freedom.
Lot of people are worried about what they teach in school these days, maybe the first thing the children should be taught is how to earn a living and have a decent life.

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2237408)

New study shows that if the police make fewer stops, there is an increase in homicides.

I guess defunding the police has consequences.

New Statistical Evidence Supports the "Minneapolis Effect" as an Explanation for Increases in Homicides

Originally Posted by Wondering (Post 2237708)

Your source has a circulation of on only 50,000 subscribers and is a Libertarian publication partially subsidized buy Charles Koch. It is another source for conspiracies. Defund the police doesn't mean eliminate police or cut back their presence in vital areas. Stop spreading your garbage! Do some legitimate research before you post.

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2237408)

New study shows that if the police make fewer stops, there is an increase in homicides.

I guess defunding the police has consequences.

New Statistical Evidence Supports the "Minneapolis Effect" as an Explanation for Increases in Homicides

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2237713)

My suggestion: Quoting valid research to refute something that is presented, here or wherever, is a far more effective tool for making one's point than insults or anger are.

Originally Posted by Wondering (Post 2237708)

Your source has a circulation of on only 50,000 subscribers and is a Libertarian publication partially subsidized buy Charles Koch. It is another source for conspiracies. Defund the police doesn't mean eliminate police or cut back their presence in vital areas. Stop spreading your garbage! Do some legitimate research before you post.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2237722)

What does the word "defund" mean in your world? According to Merriam-Webster it means "to withdraw funding from." So either the police will do more with less or they will do less with less which sounds a lot like eliminating or cutting back.

Please note that this "Libertarian publication partially subsidized buy(sic) Charles Koch" cited a recently published study that supports its position. Can you cite a study that supports your position?

Originally Posted by hypart (Post 2237779)

The only place that I know that has defunded the police is The Villages

Originally Posted by Pballer (Post 2237638)

Stop and frisk proved that you can reduce crime by violating people's constitutional rights.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2237658)

Didn’t realize carrying illegal weapons or drugs was a constitutional right. I’m more than happy for a police officer to stop me if it gets more criminals off the streets

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2237676)

True words.

I think we see examples of that here in and around TV on a daily basis. Some of read asteriskasteriskasterisk
asteriskasteriskasteriskasterisk and nary a day goes by when there ISN'T a story about some guy being stopped for unreadable license plate, stopping at a stop sign with tires over the solid white line, burned out tail light, or whatever; K-9 gets called and "alerts" to the possibility of drugs in the vehicle or on the person, a search ensues and bingo! Another drug bust. The other biggie is petty theft: you can count on at least four stories per week where someone (or several someones) are caught at Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Winn-Dixie, etc. with shoplifted items, arrested and processed for dollar amounts that seem puny to many of us. One of my favorites is a well-dressed, somewhat older lady who was caught on Wal-Mart store surveillance at one of those self-service checkouts not paying for her stuff. From the looks of it, it appeared that it was more a case of absentmindedness than theft. She left the store, got into a blue golf cart (surveillance had that on tape too) and left. I don't recall the dollar amount but I believe it was under $100. The interesting thing was that the cops asked, through the reporting publication, that anyone with knowledge of this woman contact them! That the cops would actually do that is remarkable. In cities and areas where many if not most of us come from, that is a belly laugh on the part of the cops rather than a track-down and arrest.

The cops around here know who the troublemakers and keep the pressure on. There is a fair amount of petty crime around here, but almost never anything major.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2237658)

Didn’t realize carrying illegal weapons or drugs was a constitutional right. I’m more than happy for a police officer to stop me if it gets more criminals off the streets

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2237658)

Didn’t realize carrying illegal weapons or drugs was a constitutional right. I’m more than happy for a police officer to stop me if it gets more criminals off the streets

Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2237800)

Agree. The whole Broken Windows thing worked.