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Topspinmo 12-07-2023 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2280363)
It IS zero trips to the gas station if you have an EV and you can charge it from your home - that applies to a lot of potential EV buyers. The EV's lower center of gravity allows it to stop faster as well as accelerate faster than a comparable ICE with comparable brakes. There are better health outcomes with EVs other than living longer (to 100 or more). EVs reduce the pollution in the air to promote more healthful breathing for ANY age group and I know many over 65 Villagers that would be helped by better breathing. Also, there was a roll-over accident with a gas golf cart last week. And many alcohol induced roll-overs in gas golf carts every year here in TV Land.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1HggcfnHpo

bopat 12-07-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2280462)
After 500 miles I pull into the gas station of choice, fill up in under 5 minutes, then I'm good for another 500 miles.


In my EV, I leave my house with a "full tank" of electricity. Saves a lot of time over going to a dirty gas station, filling with gas and getting a lung full of gas fumes.
I never have to do any maintenance like oil changes. That also saves time.

Every day driving I save hours.
On a long trip I stop every 200-300 miles, get out and use the restroom and get a snack, and spend maybe 10 minutes eating the snack, and the car's ready to go.

So I'm probably + (plus) a few hours on all my cumulative cross country trips, and - (minus) days worth of time with my everyday driving and lack of required maintenance and replacing broken ICE car parts over the life of the car.

But the beauty of an EV is way beyond just saving time over an ICE vehicle, it is the future.

Just look at the new Cybertruck. No more 12 volt architecture, all 48 volts! That's a change that's been long overdue!

JMintzer 12-07-2023 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2280363)
It IS zero trips to the gas station if you have an EV and you can charge it from your home - that applies to a lot of potential EV buyers. The EV's lower center of gravity allows it to stop faster as well as accelerate faster than a comparable ICE with comparable brakes. There are better health outcomes with EVs other than living longer (to 100 or more). EVs reduce the pollution in the air to promote more healthful breathing for ANY age group and I know many over 65 Villagers that would be helped by better breathing. Also, there was a roll-over accident with a gas golf cart last week. And many alcohol induced roll-overs in gas golf carts every year here in TV Land.

So you're saying they have better accelerartion and a lower center of gravity?

And this is important?

Oh, and charging is so easy... Except for those w/o a garage, or those living in apartment buildings and condos...

And could you refresh my memory... What type of EV do you own?

melpetezrinski 12-07-2023 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2280345)
That's great, IF you live in certain areas... You know, where they actually HAVE Tesla charging stations...

Remember the Ford CEO who took a long trip in one of his own EVs and was quite dismayed by the experience?

'It was a really good reality check': Ford's CEO admits EV charging was 'challenging' during F-150 Lightning road trip — here are 3 big long-distance issues electric drivers face


Turn off the TV, research the topic in questions and then post your informed opinions. Did you even read the link that you posted? Was there any mention of Tesla superchargers?

JMintzer 12-07-2023 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2280503)
In my EV, I leave my house with a "full tank" of electricity. Saves a lot of time over going to a dirty gas station, filling with gas and getting a lung full of gas fumes.
I never have to do any maintenance like oil changes. That also saves time.

Every day driving I save hours.
On a long trip I stop every 200-300 miles, get out and use the restroom and get a snack, and spend maybe 10 minutes eating the snack, and the car's ready to go.

So I'm probably + (plus) a few hours on all my cumulative cross country trips, and - (minus) days worth of time with my everyday driving and lack of required maintenance and replacing broken ICE car parts over the life of the car.

But the beauty of an EV is way beyond just saving time over an ICE vehicle, it is the future.

Just look at the new Cybertruck. No more 12 volt architecture, all 48 volts! That's a change that's been long overdue!

The new Cybertruck is getting dismal reviews... Which is surprising...

melpetezrinski 12-07-2023 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2280341)
Yes, Tesla's profits have dropped by 44%...

Tesla’s Quarterly Profits Plunge 44% - The New York Times

And you're correct. Along the 95 corridor, there are plenty of charging stations. Unfortunately, that is not what is available for the rest of the country...

And you would be wrong. I have driven (and rode in) a Tesla. Cool car, but nothing that special...


OK, I'm WRONG. See how easy it is. Now, you try it without yeah butts. Tesla is profitable, you were wrong. Now, your turn.

Bill14564 12-07-2023 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2280513)
So you're saying they have better accelerartion and a lower center of gravity?

And this is important?

...

What might be important is his statement is not true. Center of gravity has nothing to do with acceleration or deceleration. (and an electric cart DOES NOT have a lower center of gravity but that was from a different post of his)

bopat 12-07-2023 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2280515)
The new Cybertruck is getting dismal reviews... Which is surprising...

This guy's got around 18 million subscribers, and 16.5 million views on his review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxOh12Uhg08

This guy's got around 3 million subscribers, and 4.1 million views on this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6WDq0V5oBg

Here's a review from Top Gear:
Tesla Cybertruck Review 2023 | Top Gear

They all seem pretty positive.

JMintzer 12-07-2023 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2280527)
This guy's got around 18 million subscribers, and 16.5 million views on his review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxOh12Uhg08

This guy's got around 3 million subscribers, and 4.1 million views on this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6WDq0V5oBg

Here's a review from Top Gear:
Tesla Cybertruck Review 2023 | Top Gear

They all seem pretty positive.

Yes... Those reviews are positive...

But what do you know! Others have different opinions!

negative cybertruck reviews - Google Search

Topspinmo 12-07-2023 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2279470)
Biden signed another executive order to eliminate all coal fired power plants.
Think about that. It will reduce the available power generation across the entire country. Any replacement power will need to come from natural gas, solar, or wind.
Using natural gas will drive up the cost of all oil derived energy. Building new power plants is expensive. Solar and wind are not reliable as supplying the base load needed to run the country. More EVs will create more demand - a lot of that at night - when wind and solar produces nothing.

One good think about executive’s orders, the next guy can trash them with stroke of pen.


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