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leftyf 09-21-2018 08:25 AM

Hollywood hasn't put out anything I will watch anymore so I am now streaming The Waltons. Once upon a time, Hollywood could get it right.

Taltarzac725 09-21-2018 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by leftyf (Post 1583302)
Hollywood hasn't put out anything I will watch anymore so I am now streaming The Waltons. Once upon a time, Hollywood could get it right.

Lots of very good movies, TV shows, and other forms of entertainment and other motivated stuff out there.

Rapscallion St Croix 09-21-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SFSkol (Post 1583228)
I can't believe that most of the comments here are stereotyping the character of celebrities.



Those that I have worked with have proven to be a group of passionate, intelligent, and creative individuals. I have seen that the proportion of celebrities, with issues, as quoted above, are no different than the general US population contains. Yes, even the Villages.

And who put the celebrities there? We did, of course.

Sure they get gillons of dollars for their performances. But they also donate substantial amounts of money and their time to many wonderful charity organizations. Something that most critics overlook.

Robert De Niro: Charity Work & Causes - Look to the Stars

The 20 Most Charitable Celebrities in Hollywood

So, I don't mind a little pontification now and then.

You cannot compare the Oscar, Emmy type of awards to CMA or the Tonys, which have been renewed by CBS till 2025. Video award shows have little entertainment value: An excerpt of a movie or TV show has little overall meaning. Whereas the entertaining Tony musical numbers and CMA songs have traditionally proven steady in viewership.

(The Grammys are something else entirely.)

BTW: Tina Fey's husband, Jeff Richmond, has three Emmys, and a show on Broadway. Looks aren't everything.

Stereotypes are mostly accurate....look it up.

Topspinmo 09-21-2018 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SFSkol (Post 1583228)
I can't believe that most of the comments here are stereotyping the character of celebrities.



Those that I have worked with have proven to be a group of passionate, intelligent, and creative individuals. I have seen that the proportion of celebrities, with issues, as quoted above, are no different than the general US population contains. Yes, even the Villages.

And who put the celebrities there? We did, of course.

Sure they get gillons of dollars for their performances. But they also donate substantial amounts of money and their time to many wonderful charity organizations. Something that most critics overlook.

Robert De Niro: Charity Work & Causes - Look to the Stars

The 20 Most Charitable Celebrities in Hollywood

So, I don't mind a little pontification now and then.

You cannot compare the Oscar, Emmy type of awards to CMA or the Tonys, which have been renewed by CBS till 2025. Video award shows have little entertainment value: An excerpt of a movie or TV show has little overall meaning. Whereas the entertaining Tony musical numbers and CMA songs have traditionally proven steady in viewership.

(The Grammys are something else entirely.)

BTW: Tina Fey's husband, Jeff Richmond, has three Emmys, and a show on Broadway. Looks aren't everything.

so, I guess you get the tingling down the leg when around movie stars AKA waiters and waitresses.

Topspinmo 09-21-2018 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1583305)
Lots of very good movies, TV shows, and other forms of entertainment and other motivated stuff out there.

we all have opinions don't we!

Bucco 09-21-2018 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1583404)
Stereotypes are mostly accurate....look it up.

I did look it up.....


"Stereotype
An assumed label given to someone out of pure ignorance and arrogance.

Often given by people who live up to the stereotypical standards of "preps", which is pretty sad."


Urban Dictionary: Stereotype

"The use of stereotypes is a major way in which we simplify our social world; since they reduce the amount of processing (i.e. thinking) we have to do when we meet a new person.

By stereotyping we infer that a person has a whole range of characteristics and abilities that we assume all members of that group have. Stereotypes lead to social categorization, which is one of the reasons for prejudice attitudes (i.e. “them” and “us” mentality) which leads to in-groups and out-groups."


Stereotypes | Simply Psychology

Rapscallion St Croix 09-21-2018 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1583431)
I did look it up.....


"Stereotype
An assumed label given to someone out of pure ignorance and arrogance.

Often given by people who live up to the stereotypical standards of "preps", which is pretty sad."


Urban Dictionary: Stereotype

"The use of stereotypes is a major way in which we simplify our social world; since they reduce the amount of processing (i.e. thinking) we have to do when we meet a new person.

By stereotyping we infer that a person has a whole range of characteristics and abilities that we assume all members of that group have. Stereotypes lead to social categorization, which is one of the reasons for prejudice attitudes (i.e. “them” and “us” mentality) which leads to in-groups and out-groups."


Stereotypes | Simply Psychology

Look deeper. Urban Dictionary and a study done in the 1930s...really?

Look at Stereotype Accuracy

Bucco 09-21-2018 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1583434)
Look deeper. Urban Dictionary and a study done in the 1930s...really?

Look at Stereotype Accuracy

I did that first....my post was tongue in cheek, although I agree.

Those who LABEL groups and then interact based on that are just plain uninformed IN MY OPINION.

My guess is that your choice of links would change under other circumstances.


And OPINIONS are different than stereotyping......much different.

Those celebrities making fun or comments would be embraced if their aim was just a bit different.

If any stereotype was accurate, what is the sense of even trying, learning or even living. Our fate has been determined by someone stereotyping my skin, words, religion, my parents heritage, my choice of career. Pretty dumb stuff in my opinion, and I always find it the easy way out to classify everyone without any effort to even know me......

Chi-Town 09-21-2018 02:54 PM

Hollywood, Broadway, NFL, Amazon, Nike, network media, et.al. So many taboos that we all used to enjoy. Or maybe we still do.

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Bucco 09-21-2018 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1583439)
Hollywood, Broadway, NFL, Amazon, Nike, network media, et.al. So many taboos that we all used to enjoy. Or maybe we still do.

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It seems like there has to ba a target.....you have to hate someone to rally it seems.

ColdNoMore 09-21-2018 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1583435)
I did that first....my post was tongue in cheek, although I agree.

Those who LABEL groups and then interact based on that are just plain uninformed IN MY OPINION.

My guess is that your choice of links would change under other circumstances.


And OPINIONS are different than stereotyping......much different.

Those celebrities making fun or comments would be embraced if their aim was just a bit different.

If any stereotype was accurate, what is the sense of even trying, learning or even living. Our fate has been determined by someone stereotyping my skin, words, religion, my parents heritage, my choice of career. Pretty dumb stuff in my opinion, and I always find it the easy way out to classify everyone without any effort to even know me......

Yep.


Although some will stop as soon as they see a couple of sentences that reinforces their own (often ugly/bigoted/racist) confirmation bias, intellectuals will read (and more importantly, understand)...the entire link.

Stereotyping

graciegirl 09-21-2018 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1583295)
I have chatted with various celebrities online via Facebook and you are right that they should not be stereotyped. Each one is different from the next one.

How about the group that belongs to the actors guild and the television academy of arts and sciences who use the Emmy's for their political views, which in almost every situation coincide with about half of this countries population which in turn affects the ratings of the Emmy's show in a downward way. If that group would not bring up issues that cause people to tune out, then the ratings would be higher. Then everyone would again enjoy watching the Emmy's. And there would be peace across the land.:popcorn:

ColdNoMore 09-21-2018 03:28 PM

I never realized that Ted Nugent was so despised...by so many TV'ers. :shrug:

Fredman 09-21-2018 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1583447)
How about the group that belongs to the actors guild and the television academy of arts and sciences who use the Emmy's for their political views, which in almost every situation coincide with about half of this countries population which in turn affects the ratings of the Emmy's show in a downward way. If that group would not bring up issues that cause people to tune out, then the ratings would be higher. Then everyone would again enjoy watching the Emmy's. And there would be peace across the land.:popcorn:

Good point

graciegirl 09-21-2018 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1583449)
I never realized that Ted Nugent was so despised...by so many TV'ers. :shrug:

The thread is about Emmy ratings and why they have dropped in recent years. They have dropped in recent years. Perhaps the gowns aren't right? The lighting? The time of the evening? The commercials? The political speeches?


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