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cherylncliff 12-13-2023 03:32 PM

Much has changed since this article was written almost a year ago. Inflation is down to 3;1%. Gas prices are way down. Wages are up, even adjusted for inflation. Stock market is way up. Unemployment is at historic lows. Sadly, corporate profits are at historic highs. Tax rate cuts by republicans have created higher deficits. Reagan voodoo trickle down has been proven wrong over the last 50 years.

2newyorkers 12-13-2023 04:44 PM

When I bought my first house in 1980 mortgage interest rate was 17.5%. Everyone went yahoo years later when you could refinance your mortgage to 8%.

jimjamuser 12-13-2023 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2282196)
My wife and I are of 'The Silent Generation' and most of our generation inherited nothing from our parents.
They were poor, and our formative years were hard.
Today most inherit fair amount from parents and relatives, even if only a property, but in many cases, cash as well.
My good lady and I hope to keep the cash inheritance to our children as low as possible, by spending it, but our house value alone is more than either of us saw as a lump sum in our lives.
Outlook not as bad as many claim.

The outlook today is NOT so wonderful for women, blacks, and browns.

jimjamuser 12-13-2023 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2282200)
I think the future is very bright for our young people, but only if the young person understands that you need to have knowledge and education to get a good paying job. If you have decided to leave school and hang out on the corner doing drugs etc, you are doomed unless you are lucky enough to meet a real do gooder who will give you a start in life.

Having said that I believe much of what happens to you in life is self inflicted. My granddaughter works in the medical field in a job dealing with suicidal drug addition. She is employed by a major hospital in the Northeast and every night they are inundated with people begging for help with drug addition. They do what they can and hope they have helped, but the next night the same person is back. She told me she has to get out, it is soul destroying to see people literally killing themselves for drugs.

I truly believe much of what you make of your life is learned at home during your formative years and if you are unlucky enough to have parents who use drugs (either pills or alcohol) it is very difficult not to follow their example. So we are right back to the haves or have nots.

The future CAN'T be bright for today's youth as long as it costs too much for them to afford an education in College. For most, only the military is a possible way out of poverty.

photo1902 12-13-2023 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2282283)
The future CAN'T be bright for today's youth as long as it costs too much for them to afford an education in College. For most, only the military is a possible way out of poverty.

Not even close to the truth

jimjamuser 12-13-2023 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cjrjck (Post 2282246)
Inflation is up about 19 percent over the last 3 years. Nobody is disputing that. Now, it may be only 3.1 percent. Is that a good thing? Remember, that is measuring the price of a "basket of goods" this year compared to the same basket of goods purchased last year. What we know is that the basket of goods is 19% more expensive today than in 2020. In that context, perhaps 3.1 percent inflation is good but in more normal times it is horrendous. The FED wants it down to a more manageable 2 percent. It is currently 55% higher than that. Nothing to cheer about.

Real wages over inflation is UP for many people in the last 2 years. Which is good when you consider that from 1975 to 2021 real wages after inflation went up ZERO, not at all. Can you say outsourcing and union busting??????

Marmaduke 12-13-2023 05:53 PM

Regarding the labor force, I interacted with 5 WalMart employees in Ocala Today. NOT One spoke English. Not one understood what I was looking for, which was a very simple item. None took further steps to assist me.

New Quest was to look for 1 person (in any Department) who spoke English.
I approached 5 more, all in dialog ŵith another employee, that I could HEAR.

It wasn't that they spoke broken English. It was that they held the WalMart job and were speaking Spanish to each other.

We're in dire straits of epic proportions fiscally, politically, religiously, and all institutions- ally. Jump! It's sinking.

jimjamuser 12-13-2023 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cherylncliff (Post 2282268)
Much has changed since this article was written almost a year ago. Inflation is down to 3;1%. Gas prices are way down. Wages are up, even adjusted for inflation. Stock market is way up. Unemployment is at historic lows. Sadly, corporate profits are at historic highs. Tax rate cuts by republicans have created higher deficits. Reagan voodoo trickle down has been proven wrong over the last 50 years.

It all goes back to tax rates changes for various sections of the economic spectrum from 1975 to today.

photo1902 12-13-2023 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmaduke (Post 2282293)
Regarding the labor force, I interacted with 5 WalMart employees in Ocala Today. NOT One spoke English. Not one understood what I was looking for, which was a very simple item. None took further steps to assist me.

New Quest was to look for 1 person (in any Department) who spoke English.
I approached 5 more, all in dialog ŵith another employee, that I could HEAR.

It wasn't that they spoke broken English. It was that they held the WalMart job and were speaking Spanish to each other.

We're in dire straits of epic proportions fiscally, politically, religiously, and all institutions- ally. Jump! It's sinking.

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JMintzer 12-13-2023 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2282184)
Yep! Job growth is great and unemployment down. If "the media" you listen to is all gloom and doom, may want to check-in on mainstream media sources once in a while to get a different perspective.

"Job Growth" is simply people going back to work after the Covid lockdowns. The Labor Participation Rate has not improved...

"Inflation is Down"? Compared to what? It's still over 3% on top of the 20% increase over the last 3 years...

Next, you'll tell me gas prices are down... Yeah, down compared to the ridiculous high of the last 2 years, but still much higher than January 2021...

Does the "mainstream media" tell you that?

JMintzer 12-13-2023 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cherylncliff (Post 2282268)
Much has changed since this article was written almost a year ago. Inflation is down to 3;1%. Gas prices are way down. Wages are up, even adjusted for inflation. Stock market is way up. Unemployment is at historic lows. Sadly, corporate profits are at historic highs. Tax rate cuts by republicans have created higher deficits. Reagan voodoo trickle down has been proven wrong over the last 50 years.

How many times are people going to post this (well debunked) nonsense?

JMintzer 12-13-2023 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2282282)
The outlook today is NOT so wonderful for women, blacks, and browns.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

JMintzer 12-13-2023 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2282283)
The future CAN'T be bright for today's youth as long as it costs too much for them to afford an education in College. For most, only the military is a possible way out of poverty.

A college education is quite affordable.

I have ZERO sympathy for those $300K in debt, majoring in "Gender Studies" or "Interpretive Dance"...

CarlR33 12-13-2023 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wondering (Post 2282119)
The only media outlets who are painting a bad outlook are the 'Noise" cable networks - Fox, Newsmax One America, and all the other conspiracy, propaganda outlets. Eggs are back to normal prices, gas is in mid $2 range in many areas of the country. Products that are high in price is due to corporate greed - Look at their record profits. They are trying to make up for lost revenue during the pandemic.

Yep, when have your ever seen food prices go back to their former pre inflation price, LOL

Andyb 12-13-2023 08:43 PM

Thanks for pointing the bubble that’s building.

fdpaq0580 12-13-2023 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2282313)
"Job Growth" is simply people going back to work after the Covid lockdowns. The Labor Participation Rate has not improved...

"Inflation is Down"? Compared to what? It's still over 3% on top of the 20% increase over the last 3 years...

Next, you'll tell me gas prices are down... Yeah, down compared to the ridiculous high of the last 2 years, but still much higher than January 2021...

Does the "mainstream media" tell you that?

Not true! 200,000 New Jobs and unemployment down to historic lows.
Inflation is Down
I'm paying less. In the past I've paid over twice current price
And last, Yes, but even FOX was all glowing about how great the economy is. Maybe they actually took a look around and saw what is really going on. Just a thought.

fdpaq0580 12-13-2023 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlR33 (Post 2282334)
Yep, when have your ever seen food prices go back to their former pre inflation price, LOL

Just recently on some things. Guess it depends on where you shop. And, it is the holidays. Not the most price friendly time of year for some things

Two Bills 12-14-2023 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2282282)
The outlook today is NOT so wonderful for women, blacks, and browns.

The outlook today is just as good as it has ever been, maybe better.
Just get out and make it happen.
Sitting on your butt pontificating, complaining and waiting to be given something, will get you exactly what you deserve.
Nothing. Same as it has always been!

Byte1 12-14-2023 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2282349)
Not true! 200,000 New Jobs and unemployment down to historic lows.
Inflation is Down
I'm paying less. In the past I've paid over twice current price
And last, Yes, but even FOX was all glowing about how great the economy is. Maybe they actually took a look around and saw what is really going on. Just a thought.

I am interested in where you get your information. I reviewed information on the Bureau of Labor Stats and almost everything is twice as high in cost since 2000. Cars cost twice as much. Health care costs twice as much. Tuition is twice as much. Two million more unemployed than in 2000. Of course, if you base your whole concept of "great economy" on the inflated prices in the Stock Market, I guess folks with investments might/might say the economy is good. I guess if you suggest that inflation is down compared to last year, based on the COLA raise we get this year versus last year, maybe someone is misleading you. Last year, due to inflation we received about 8% raise in SS. This year, even though the basis for a raise in SS benefits is supposed to be adjusted by the yearly average in cost of living compared to last year, it was not quite there. We are receiving a 3+% raise, even though the figures suggest that the COLA should be based on 4%. But, everyone likes a raise. If you just compare stats or costs with last year, I guess the view behind rose tinted glasses is just fine. Ask the working stiff is he/she finds their life "rosy." If someone tells you on TV that we are doing great or doing real bad, it's best to check some REAL figures, instead of listening to them tell you that it's raining when in reality, they are peeing on your shoes. I know for a fact that I am paying over a hundred bucks more for a basket of groceries than I paid two years ago. I still check the price for ribeye steaks that cost twice as much as they did two years ago (and usually pass it up for Tues $3.99lb ground chuck specials). Oh, I can afford the increased price of steak, but I just refuse to participate in price gouging.
Doing GREAT? I doubt if the working stiff will agree with you. Yes, being retired is nice and I don't usually complain much, but lets at least be truthful about the situation. Sure, we can live by the saying by Helen Keller ""I cried because I had no shoes until I met a man who had no feet." In my opinion, America is the greatest country in the world. I have spent at least half my life overseas, so I have some basis to compare. But, America will be eaten alive by false prophets if folks don't hold rein on those in power.

Bay Kid 12-14-2023 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2282349)
Not true! 200,000 New Jobs and unemployment down to historic lows.
Inflation is Down
I'm paying less. In the past I've paid over twice current price
And last, Yes, but even FOX was all glowing about how great the economy is. Maybe they actually took a look around and saw what is really going on. Just a thought.

My guess you don't do the grocery shopping. You must not remember the gas prices from 2020

Two Bills 12-14-2023 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2282374)
My guess you don't do the grocery shopping. You must not remember the gas prices from 2020


................or the fact that Covid had practically shut down the world, and there was little or no demand for gas.

OhioBuckeye 12-14-2023 09:37 AM

What’s the 5 things the media is saying & who’s saying it. I could say the media is wrong & someone will ask , what!

JMintzer 12-14-2023 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2282349)
Not true! 200,000 New Jobs and unemployment down to historic lows.
Inflation is Down
I'm paying less. In the past I've paid over twice current price
And last, Yes, but even FOX was all glowing about how great the economy is. Maybe they actually took a look around and saw what is really going on. Just a thought.

Inflation being down does NOT mean prices are down. Inflation is still higher than January '21... Gas is still higher than January '21... Most EVERYTHING is still significantly higher than January '21...

Inflation rate is down, but it is also based upon 20% higher prices Form the record high inflation of the last 3 years... Simple economics...

The vast majority of "new jobs" are due to people going back to work, post Covid. New jobs are slightly up, but the labor participation rate is still low.Why is that? Could it be that people are working 2-3 jobs, just to get by?

You're paying less FOR WHAT? You've paid over twice the current price FOR WHAT?

Oh, I forgot to add... "FOX News" Everybody drink!

AMB444 12-14-2023 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2282283)
The future CAN'T be bright for today's youth as long as it costs too much for them to afford an education in College. For most, only the military is a possible way out of poverty.

Yep! The university I attended now is up to $65K PER YEAR!

I have one child in college in the U of Wisco system. Out of state tuition is $30K per year. UW - Madison is now $55k per year.

Even community colleges here in the midwest are up to $12k per year. For a community college!

Topspinmo 12-14-2023 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2282283)
The future CAN'T be bright for today's youth as long as it costs too much for them to afford an education in College. For most, only the military is a possible way out of poverty.


Maybe they need to move to NYC and go to NYC city collage? Last time I hear tuition was free?

fdpaq0580 12-14-2023 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2282445)
Inflation being down does NOT mean prices are down. Inflation is still higher than January '21... Gas is still higher than January '21... Most EVERYTHING is still significantly higher than January '21...

Inflation rate is down, but it is also based upon 20% higher prices Form the record high inflation of the last 3 years... Simple economics...

The vast majority of "new jobs" are due to people going back to work, post Covid. New jobs are slightly up, but the labor participation rate is still low.Why is that? Could it be that people are working 2-3 jobs, just to get by?

You're paying less FOR WHAT? You've paid over twice the current price FOR WHAT?

Oh, I forgot to add... "FOX News" Everybody drink!

Sorry. Sure, lots of folks went back to their old jobs after covid. But we are talking lots and lots of new, good paying jobs. Lots of those a a result of the infrastructure bill, for example.

And, FYI, "FOR WHAT" is gas/diesel.

""FOX News" Everybody drink!" Um, drink what? Not a fan?


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