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graciegirl 02-16-2018 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cologal (Post 1515806)
On the news tonight it was confirmed an armed guard was present at the school.

The high school was NOT a gun free zone!

Should have been, Read this;

Florida school shooting: How was killer able to get around school security? - Sun Sentinel

Polar Bear 02-16-2018 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 1515782)
Twitter and Facebook should be shutdown. Its full of erroneous information...

With all due respect, it would be more useful to consider options that actually have a chance of happening.

ColdNoMore 02-16-2018 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 1515782)
Twitter and Facebook should be shutdown. Its full of erroneous information....

LOL

Applying that criteria across the board and equitably, there would be no such thing as television/newspaper/internet news...or even TOTV for that matter. :oops:

Abby10 02-16-2018 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1515820)
With all due respect, it would be more useful to consider options that actually have a chance of happening.

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1515825)
LOL

Applying that criteria across the board and equitably, there would be no such thing as television/newspaper/internet news...or even TOTV for that matter. :oops:

In all fairness, that wasn't the only thing the poster suggested and some of his ideas were pretty good.

I have to agree with him though in that I think social networking sites have done more harm than good where our children are concerned and in more ways than one.

Bucco 02-16-2018 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1515825)
LOL

Applying that criteria across the board and equitably, there would be no such thing as television/newspaper/internet news...or even TOTV for that matter. :oops:

You're right.

It is what it is.

It is not the sites. It is people who read it and believe what they read. It's Facebook, get your news from real news.

The sites do not make you believe the trite you read there. Putin is laughing his backside off realizing how easily Americans are duped.

I have always said, and certainly not just me, but on the internet, you keep looking you will find a site to validate what you WANT it to say.

If you are an American and you believed supposed "news" from other than recognized news sites, you re the butt of jokes in the Kremlin.

Don't take them down, but how about educating ourselves.

Why people go to bizarre extremist sites and then accept it because they want to, and then stupidly...and sorry, but it is stupid, repeat it should be, and must be the theme of many writings

I go back to my original thought on this thread. Our society is so tuned into "getting others", "counter punching" etc, and will go where that "hate" takes them to "prove" their point. Truth does not enter the picture.

That thirst to find heir particular truth leads them to believe things from odd websites, from email mailings most always crammed with lies.

Now that affects voters as we know, but some get incredibly involved with this hateful feeling and cannot handle it. Then they lose all touch with truth and reality.

That detachment from real facts is spreading, and I really believe is at the root of much of our problems. You can laugh at me, but the political "discussions" are more loud and violence from politics is more prevelant.

Kids hear this stuff...they copy us...I am not saying this kid falls into this category because I don't know. I have apologized for linking in my first post, but haven't changed my mind about an anger that is growing in this country and the feeling that it is ok because if you think you are right, then you are.

Mental problems are a bigger issue than ever, and we need to recognize that if we will allow assault weapons to be sold. But, we wont

graciegirl 02-16-2018 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1515840)
You're right.

It is what it is.

It is not the sites. It is people who read it and believe what they read. It's Facebook, get your news from real news.

The sites do not make you believe the trite you read there. Putin is laughing his backside off realizing how easily Americans are duped.

I have always said, and certainly not just me, but on the internet, you keep looking you will find a site to validate what you WANT it to say.

If you are an American and you believed supposed "news" from other than recognized news sites, you re the butt of jokes in the Kremlin.

Don't take them down, but how about educating ourselves.

Why people go to bizarre extremist sites and then accept it because they want to, and then stupidly...and sorry, but it is stupid, repeat it should be, and must be the theme of many writings

Most people I know do not. They watch NBC, CBS and ABC, all left leaning. They Watch MSNBC AND CNN, both left leaning and Fox, Right leaning. They read Time, Newsweek, New York Times, Washington Post, mostly left leaning and Reuters, Guardian, and Vox not exactly the unbiased journalism we used to have but a little more like it.

They read and hear some news, but mostly opinions and some outright untruths on News Stations and News Services (AP wire) we used to be able to take to the bank.

Bucco 02-16-2018 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1515844)
Most people I know do not. They watch NBC, CBS and ABC, all left leaning. They Watch MSNBC AND CNN, both left leaning and Fox, Right leaning. They read Time, Newsweek, New York Times, Washington Post, mostly left leaning and Reuters, Guardian, and Vox not exactly the unbiased journalism we used to have but a little more like it.

They read and hear some news, but mostly opinions and some outright untruths on News Stations and News Services (AP wire) we used to be able to take to the bank.

Grace, with all due respect....NEWS IS NEITHER LEFT LEANING OR RIGHT LEANING.

Commentary can be, but we are hearing it the way we THINK IT IS. If a news report is true, but not complimentary, we now suddenly say it's not true...we ignore all the facts, call it either left or riggt leaning.

News broadcasts are closely edited and scrutinized.

The media does NOT distort facts. You are calling a lot of great reporters liars, and it is just not true.

In addition, if you are not delving into topics, then, in my opinion, you lose the right to condemn others. This charge you are making is absolutely not true.

You should look into what it takes relative to validating facts before you can write anything, for example, in the Washington Post or the Times.

Today's indictments and the detail involved actually proves my point. We are very easily duped into accepting lies or misstatements.

Polar Bear 02-16-2018 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1515849)
Grace, with all due respect....NEWS IS NEITHER LEFT LEANING OR RIGHT LEANING.

Commentary can be, but we are hearing it the way we THINK IT IS. If a news report is true, but not complimentary, we now suddenly say it's not true...we ignore all the facts, call it either left or riggt leaning.

News broadcasts are closely edited and scrutinized.

The media does NOT distort facts...

I keep wondering if you’re making these comments tongue-in-cheek. You can’t possibly believe this, can you? I think even most left and right leaning politically savvy folks would disagree with you.

I’m not saying all news sources or reporters are dishonest or bad. But many, including major ‘news’ sources, do try to pass off opinion and distortion as fact...in support of their political agenda.

ColdNoMore 02-16-2018 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1515849)
Grace, with all due respect....NEWS IS NEITHER LEFT LEANING OR RIGHT LEANING.

Commentary can be, but we are hearing it the way we THINK IT IS. If a news report is true, but not complimentary, we now suddenly say it's not true...we ignore all the facts, call it either left or riggt leaning.

News broadcasts are closely edited and scrutinized.

The media does NOT distort facts. You are calling a lot of great reporters liars, and it is just not true.

In addition, if you are not delving into topics, then, in my opinion, you lose the right to condemn others. This charge you are making is absolutely not true.

You should look into what it takes relative to validating facts before you can write anything, for example, in the Washington Post or the Times.

Today's indictments and the detail involved actually proves my point. We are very easily duped into accepting lies or misstatements.

Dead on.

What a lot of people can't seem to discern these days, is actual news (facts)...versus opinion presented as news.

The Russian indictments today should put a quick end to those who believe certain people saying, that Russia didn't try to meddle in our democracy...but I'll bet it doesn't. :ohdear:

Polar Bear 02-16-2018 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1515853)
Dead on.

What a lot of people can't seem to discern these days, is actual news (facts)...versus opinion presented as news...

Apparently.

Polar Bear 02-16-2018 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1515849)
...You should look into what it takes relative to validating facts before you can write anything, for example, in the Washington Post...

Imo, possibly the most biased “news” source in the country. Even on those occasions when they do report something resembling the facts, it is absurdly biased and skewed in an effort to advance their own all-too-obvious political agenda.

fw102807 02-16-2018 09:40 PM

It is very scary how easy it is to manipulate people. That is why so many scams are so successful. All of those cute puppies and 100 yr old people and wounded vets on FB are just "like farming" sites to accumulate likes and shares for their pages. You can google this.

Psa1000 02-16-2018 09:43 PM

Steve9930 - I totally agree with your input.

Bucco 02-17-2018 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1515852)
I keep wondering if you’re making these comments tongue-in-cheek. You can’t possibly believe this, can you? I think even most left and right leaning politically savvy folks would disagree with you.

I’m not saying all news sources or reporters are dishonest or bad. But many, including major ‘news’ sources, do try to pass off opinion and distortion as fact...in support of their political agenda.

All, everybody, are words I try not to use in any situation.

But, will ask for an example as I always do. Discerning NEWS seems to be difficult for some. Reading instead of listening seems to be difficult for some.

The detail in the indictments from yesterday show how "lazy" we really are and how we believe what we WANT to believe...much easier

Bucco 02-17-2018 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1515870)
Imo, possibly the most biased “news” source in the country. Even on those occasions when they do report something resembling the facts, it is absurdly biased and skewed in an effort to advance their own all-too-obvious political agenda.

Example please


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