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donfey 01-13-2025 08:46 AM

Taxes
 
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Originally Posted by JIMQ3100 (Post 2400672)
I have read a few posts on FL residency but my questions is a little different.
I am WI resident. What happens if I get a FL driving license does it mean I get the FL residency automatically? I am thinking not.
what if I don't file for FL Domicile and voting rights in FL. Am I still considered WI resident by default for tax purposes?
Did anyone got FL driving license and not file for FL Domicile?
Input is appreciated.

Thanks

If you own a home in Wisconsin, and one in Florida, you'll only get a Home Owners exemption one of them, in your state of residence. That tax savings can be a deciding factor in which state you choose to declare.

lpkruege1 01-13-2025 09:15 AM

yes and no
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2400683)
You pay income tax in Wisconsin even if you are a "non-resident" or part-time resident. It's pro-rated.

You pay income tax on the income made in Wisconsin. I co farmed with my son, but I'm a Florida resident. My social security and pension is NOT taxed by Florida or Wisconsin. My Farm income from Wisconsin is Taxed By Wisconsin. To claim Florida residency you need to live in Florida over 6 months of a year, notify Wisconsin you are claiming residency in Florida, Claim residency in Florida, Change your divers license to Florida, Change your voting to Florida, insure your car in Florida. There are documents available. I confirmed the steps with the Sumter Co office. Now, this was 5 years ago, I'm not sure if any changes were made since then.

defrey12 01-13-2025 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JIMQ3100 (Post 2400672)
I have read a few posts on FL residency but my questions is a little different.
I am WI resident. What happens if I get a FL driving license does it mean I get the FL residency automatically? I am thinking not.
what if I don't file for FL Domicile and voting rights in FL. Am I still considered WI resident by default for tax purposes?
Did anyone got FL driving license and not file for FL Domicile?
Input is appreciated.

Thanks

You MUST give up your WI license to get a new one in FL. Your domicile is what your license says. It is ILLEGAL to have more than one drivers’ license in any of the 50 states. I’m not sure what you’re talking about when you say “file for FL domicile”…if you get a FL license, you live here—as you MUST have a Florida address. Why are you trying to “back door” scam this. Give up WI or go back. Pretty simple.

defrey12 01-13-2025 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2400683)
You pay income tax in Wisconsin even if you are a "non-resident" or part-time resident. It's pro-rated.

Oh, so they’re as bad as California…tax you even when you don’t live there or benefit one iota from those taxes.

defrey12 01-13-2025 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2400691)
Depending on one’s situation, they may need reliable access to very good health care.

THEN MAKE YOUR CHOICE…and live with it. Everything in life comes down to “choice”

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-13-2025 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by defrey12 (Post 2401057)
Oh, so they’re as bad as California…tax you even when you don’t live there or benefit one iota from those taxes.

Most states with state income tax require you to pay income tax on any income you earned while working in that state. Even if you don't live in that state. Your income tax pays, in part, for the streets your car travels on, on its way to and from work every day. It pays, in part, for snow plowing to get you safely to and from work when it's snowing. It pays, in part, for the police who help you get your car off the road when you've been driving too fast in the snow and spun out and hit a telephone pole. If you don't want to pay Wisconsin income tax, then - don't work in Wisconsin.

Same as in California, and New York, and Louisiana, Kentucky, etc. etc. They ALL make you pay income tax, if you WORK in those states, regardless of where you live. The state you live in might also make you pay income tax, because you have an income, while living in that state. Different states have different rules about that.

This isn't news. It's not a recent change.

Outdoors 01-13-2025 08:09 PM

FL domicile
 
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Originally Posted by defrey12 (Post 2401055)
You MUST give up your WI license to get a new one in FL. Your domicile is what your license says. It is ILLEGAL to have more than one drivers’ license in any of the 50 states. I’m not sure what you’re talking about when you say “file for FL domicile”…if you get a FL license, you live here—as you MUST have a Florida address. Why are you trying to “back door” scam this. Give up WI or go back. Pretty simple.

The domicile form is another method of legally establishing your residence. You might use it as proof that you are a FL resident just like using a homestead exemption, voter registration or DL. But if you don't own property, don't have a DL, and don't need a FL id (you have a valid passport), you can file for domicile and establish residency. Think someone living in a nursing home not driving not voting, not going anywhere.

BrianL99 01-13-2025 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by defrey12 (Post 2401055)
You MUST give up your WI license to get a new one in FL. Your domicile is what your license says. It is ILLEGAL to have more than one drivers’ license in any of the 50 states. I’m not sure what you’re talking about when you say “file for FL domicile”…if you get a FL license, you live here—as you MUST have a Florida address. Why are you trying to “back door” scam this. Give up WI or go back. Pretty simple.

Your "Domicile" is not necessarily what your license says. Your domicile is wherever you intend it to be, within reason. As someone else mentioned, ask most any former Military person how they handled residency. Is the typical USN submarine tour, 6 months?

As someone else mentioned earlier in the thread, what about people who live in (3) states, as I do. There's no simple "183 day rule".

Filing for Domicile in Florida is a specific process. If you reside in Sumter County and would like to make it your domicile, you can find the form here: Forms | Sumter County Clerk of Courts.

ElDiabloJoe 01-14-2025 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2401199)
Most states with state income tax require you to pay income tax on any income you earned while working in that state. Even if you don't live in that state.
...

Same as in California, and New York, and Louisiana, Kentucky, etc. etc. They ALL make you pay income tax, if you WORK in those states, regardless of where you live. The state you live in might also make you pay income tax, because you have an income, while living in that state. Different states have different rules about that.

This isn't news. It's not a recent change.

Fact Check: Partially correct.

If you are earning ACTIVE income (i.e. - W-2 income or 10-99 income), then yes, those states will tax you. Imagine playing pro sports and "working" in a different state every week!

However, if you are receiving an earned pension from, sayyyyy California, then the state does NOT tax that even though you earned it by your labors and its investment gains occurring in California if you do not currently live in that state.

Same goes if you earned a California pension but retired to the Philippines. Not uncommon, actually. Lots of healthcare folks working in Los Angeles. No state or federal income tax is owed, due, collected, or held back.

retiredguy123 01-14-2025 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlR33 (Post 2400686)
Actually, your considered a resident (“establishing residency”) after 6 months then after that it’s 30 days to obtain a license.
New Resident - Welcome to Florida! - Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles

Actually, I don't think you need to live in Florida for 6 months to become a resident. That would mean that you need to pay income tax to another state while living in Florida, which is not true. The 6 months is the time where the state can declare you to be a resident, even if you don't want to be one. You cannot live in Florida indefinitely and declare yourself a non-resident.

Topspinmo 01-14-2025 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2401378)
Actually, I don't think you need to live in Florida for 6 months to become a resident. That would mean that you need to pay income tax to another state while living in Florida, which is not true. The 6 months is the time where the state can declare you to be a resident, even if you don't want to be one. You cannot live in Florida indefinitely and declare yourself a non-resident.


And who going check? Unless leave paper trail I see now way state knowing, homeless population good example, they don’t want to know. :oops:

Last I heard renters don’t pay no taxes? The property owner does?

MX rider 01-20-2025 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2401443)
And who going check? Unless leave paper trail I see now way state knowing, homeless population good example, they don’t want to know. :oops:

Last I heard renters don’t pay no taxes? The property owner does?

If they wanted to they can check your cell phone records and see where you're living. But I don't think they would do that.

Pugchief 01-20-2025 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2401443)

Last I heard renters don’t pay no taxes? The property owner does?

Renters pay imputed real estate tax thru their rent.

ElDiabloJoe 01-20-2025 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MX rider (Post 2402963)
If they wanted to they can check your cell phone records and see where you're living. But I don't think they would do that.

That would probably require a warrant. Obtainable since tax evasion is a crime, but generally not worth the effort unless the subject is a high earner (hence a high loss of tax income for the state).

kschwi 01-23-2025 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2400693)
Actually, you're reading it wrong.

Have filed for homestead tax exemption on property in this state.

Where can I do this in Lake County? Can I go to any tax collectors office? I believe there is one in Cleremont and an office in Taveras.


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