Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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I'm continually amazed at the lengths people will go to to bring their pets everywhere they go. Animals have their place--and it isn't in grocery stores and restaurants. I witnessed a woman trying to bring her dog into Carrabba's Restaurant. When the hostess asked her for her papers proving the dog is a service animal, the woman left in a huff. Emotional support animal? Come on! If businesses don't start cracking down on this trend, it's going to get out of hand. Some people are like children; they'll test the system until they suffer the consequences.
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1. This is confusing. The link in the OP refers to an article which references the law passed in 2006 to allow restaurants to permit dogs in outdoor seating, and the abuse of that law is permitting. It does address so called service dogs.
2. This thread is discussing a complete opposite bill that is introduced to satisfy the ongoing problem of folks calling their dogs "service animals" to keep from paying a fee for animals in condos apartment buildings. You say you have an '''emotional support’ animal? This bill says, ‘Not so fast.’ They are very specific situations but all involve the law in Florida....which clearly states... "The ADA defines a service animal as a dog that is individually trained to perform tasks or do work for the benefit of a person with a disability. (In some cases, a miniature horse may also qualify as a service animal under the ADA.) The tasks or work the animal does must be directly related to the person’s disability. Neither law covers pets or what some call “emotional support animals”: animals that provide a sense of safety, companionship, and comfort to those with psychiatric or emotional disabilities or conditions. Although these animals often have therapeutic benefits, they are not individually trained to perform specific tasks for their handlers. Under the ADA and Florida law, owners of public accommodations are not required to allow emotional support animals, only service animals (including psychiatric service dogs). Florida Laws on Service Dogs and Emotional Support Animals | Nolo). It appears on the surface we are speaking of business's that are not enforcing. The laws on the books seem clear to me on how to handle this, but it requires business owners to step up All the laws I researched seem clear but be wary that these laws vary slightly from state to state. It looks like the pressure should be brought to bear BY THE BUSINESS owners. Discussion on what the law says or does not say is easily found, but it will do nothing is not enforced. |
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A. No. People with disabilities have the right to train the dog themselves and are not required to use a professional service dog training program." So, if someone trains his or her own dog to do a task, and they don't need to do anything but to say what task it can do, how is that "illegal"? In my opinion, that makes it a legal service animal. |
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I agree. If you need emotional support from animal 🦔 it’s mental problem. The blind IMO are the only true service dogs other than very few who medical condition may need animal to sense emergency which would be very low number like same odds as winning pick 5 lotto game. Which means if you see one other than with blind person it’s miracle. |
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How many times has legislation curbs abuse? ??????? I can’t think of one.
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I was on a flight and fell asleep. I awakened to a feeling of wetness on my arm and saw the the dachsund on the lap of a man next to me was licking my arm. The man was apparently ok with this because he made a slight adjustment but left the dog essentially where he was initially. I consider this unsanitary. You never know where that dog had previously licked.
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support dogs
In training ??????? What is up with that.
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GET A LIFE! There are so many important issues that the legislature could be spending their time on than to respond to a FEW people with nothing better to do! There has to be a middle ground. Go to Europe (my experience is in Germany). You'll find dogs in all kinds of public places including restaurants and bars on a regular basis. I personally don't take my dog to those places on a regular basis but there have been times when I am out and need to make a quick stop at Publix and my 10# dog is with me in the care that it would be nice to take her in with me as a matter of convenience but I don't even though I've seen people in there with theirs. We don't need legislation to do the right thing. Our legislature needs to be spending time on fixing Education, Medical Care, Cost of living, Infrastructure, Global Warming, etc, etc, etc..
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The businesses who must balance this are afraid of being sued because of the ADA and before any thoughts enter your mind, believe me when I say I fully understand what having a handicap means. It isn't fair for people to bring their emotional support animals anywhere that would be a bother to others. The dear animals do not have a vote and bear the brunt of their owners bad judgement.
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The point is frauds are making it hard on the people who really need a service dog. And the law is making it easy on the frauds.
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And there is a tremendous amount of fraud. The problem is utilizing the family physician as the gatekeeper for a letter to allow ESAs. It is very hard to say no to these requests, and most physicians just give it to their patient. Personally, I never signed a letter for an ESA, instead I told the patient that if their mental health problem is so extensive that they cannot be separated from their furry friend even for a trip to the grocery store, then they need to see a psychiatrist who is more qualified to evaluate their request. Surprise, surprise---not one of the dozens of patients that I made this offer to ever made the appointment. I guess their need for a four legged furball wasn't as dire as they first described.
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