Originally Posted by boobear51751 (Post 1746412)

Step back and take a breath. First of all churches are just buildings made of mortar and wood. You don't need to be in a building full of people who could potentially kill you with a virus they are carrying. You can read the Bible at home, you can pray at home, you can watch a service on your tv. You don't need to be in a church building. Think about the clergy and their families. Do they want to expose their families to this awful disease. We need to concur this disease and packing people into a building will only further the assault we are under. Second: Wal-Mart also provides not only food but has a pharmacy inside its' building which makes it an essential business. I have seen much smaller grocery stores still open, because again, they are essential. The stimulus package, when in finally arrives, will get the small business back on their feet. This type of setback happens whenever there is a disaster not just this virus. The real question is: How often do people make it a point to shop at only small retail stores? These small business will also get no interest loans to help get them up and running again. A well run small business if handled properly will have enough backup assets to hold them for a few months just in case. So yes, we do need Wal-Mart stores, Targets and the like. Third: Government doesn't always get it right because there are far to many cooks in the kitchen. Our governor could do a better job in not playing politics and getting what The Villages really needs, a huge testing site for all of our residents to have access to. Being a research site doesn't cut it.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1746782)

Take a minute a look carefully at actual photographs and signs and even cartoons of the similar Pandemic in 1918-1919, a hundred years ago. Even with all of the things we know now, it seems very much the same.

pictures from the pandemic in 1918 - Bing images

Originally Posted by sacdq (Post 1746426)

the media is currently telling us the the us death toll is hire than italy and climbing. We’re now the hugest in the world.
Take a deep breath! Ok now italy has a population of around 23 million. The usa 2018 senses was around 350 million. This doesn’t account for legal visitors and illegal visitors so will add another 3 million. Now do the math and tell me who has the highest death rate percentage.

Originally Posted by DONS999 (Post 1746771)

Why is it now that the death of .006% of the American population from sickness can now shut down the whole country and change how we gather maybe forever??

If we are going react to all these end of the world numbers without understanding that all the models have been way off and that the media never uses % s unless it helps their agenda.

The human race has survived in spite of politicians , wars , weather, and even the plagues. ( read ' Get Well Soon' Jennifer Wright , History's Worst Plagues)

The politicians and the un elected bureaucracy now know that the Constitution and freedom can be ignored and they can control all our lives if less than 1% of the population is in danger and that they will never been held accountable if their predictions are way off .

Good luck Snowflakes and ladies

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1746805)

Snowball, you haven’t lost a son or daughter or spouse or any family member, friend or neighbor yet due to covid19, obviously.

Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1746493)

When you were a child, your parents and teachers told you that you should stop, look both ways, and listen before crossing the street. This was good advice and you probably never got run over by a car because you did those things (or were just damn lucky). Now, later in life, you look back and think that was totally unnecessarily because you never got run over!

That seems to be your thinking here. If a complete disaster is avoided it’s because people take precautions—not because there was never a dire threat.

Another example that people like you mention is Y2K. No disaster happened because we spent billions upgrading hardware and software to prevent the disaster—not because there was no real threat. People worked long, hard hours to prevent it and when people like you make fun of it, you are belittling their effort.

How about the ozone hole? Many people like you complain that you want your Freon and it was unfair for the government to outlaw its use. We were warned that millions of people would die of skin cancer if the hole expanded to cover the earth. But millions didn’t die. Not because there wasn’t a threat, but because we prevented the ozone hole from expanding by banning Freon.

There are many examples like this. You really do need to quit watching fake “news” programs that tell you the be outraged over things so they can manipulate you into doing things that are not really in your best interest.

Originally Posted by bumpygreens (Post 1746818)

Everything has a cost regardless of which choice you make. Your statement about Freon couldn't be more wrong. Tens of millions died in the developing world...from food poisoning when they lost an affordable means of refrigeration.

You really should consider abandoning the "people like you" phrase. It makes it sound like you believe yourself to be superior, when all you really have is a different misunderstanding. Most news is fake news to one degree or another. Six conglomerates own all our major news outlets. We get opinion disguised as news, and we tend to watch the channels that reinforce our beliefs. "We the People" are being herded into a "house divided", and nobody seems to realize it let alone question why.

Originally Posted by DONS999 (Post 1746815)

Did you have that much concern when in 2018 850,000 Americans were hospitalized by the flu and 40,000 died

they were family members too

Originally Posted by DONS999 (Post 1746820)

don't forget about the 500,000 a year that die from malaria because DDT cannot be used

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1746826)

Approximately, 5 people per year may die from malaria in the USA.

Originally Posted by bumpygreens (Post 1746831)

And approximately 1,000,000 in the rest of the world.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1746826)

Approximately, 5 people per year may die from malaria in the USA.

Originally Posted by DONS999 (Post 1746838)

worldwide

the number was to add to the Freon comment

Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1746350)

Nope but also disagree, since you believe you have a right to infect and kill people with a virus because you want to I want them to take away your civil liberties since you don't seem to care whom you hurt.

Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1746348)

I think that they might be wondering what is so darned important about that new fangled toilet paper.

Originally Posted by drpepper (Post 1746392)

I believe 100% that you are correct. We will look back on this and find that all the shutdowns were an over reaction to what was reported to us and that the virus wasn't near as deadly as 1st reported. One positive would be less dependence on China possibly.

Originally Posted by SacDQ (Post 1746403)

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1746516)

Population of Italy 61 million. (just to help with the math!)

Originally Posted by DONS999 (Post 1746815)

Did you have that much concern when in 2018 850,000 Americans were hospitalized by the flu and 40,000 died

they were family members too

Originally Posted by boobear51751 (Post 1746412)

Step back and take a breath. First of all churches are just buildings made of mortar and wood. You don't need to be in a building full of people who could potentially kill you with a virus they are carrying. You can read the Bible at home, you can pray at home, you can watch a service on your tv. You don't need to be in a church building. Think about the clergy and their families. Do they want to expose their families to this awful disease. We need to concur this disease and packing people into a building will only further the assault we are under. Second: Wal-Mart also provides not only food but has a pharmacy inside its' building which makes it an essential business. I have seen much smaller grocery stores still open, because again, they are essential. The stimulus package, when in finally arrives, will get the small business back on their feet. This type of setback happens whenever there is a disaster not just this virus. The real question is: How often do people make it a point to shop at only small retail stores? These small business will also get no interest loans to help get them up and running again. A well run small business if handled properly will have enough backup assets to hold them for a few months just in case. So yes, we do need Wal-Mart stores, Targets and the like. Third: Government doesn't always get it right because there are far to many cooks in the kitchen. Our governor could do a better job in not playing politics and getting what The Villages really needs, a huge testing site for all of our residents to have access to. Being a research site doesn't cut it.

Originally Posted by ExecChef57 (Post 1746983)

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790). The People make the decision not for the government to do. They have no right to close anything.

Originally Posted by ExecChef57 (Post 1746983)

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790). The People make the decision not for the government to do. They have no right to close anything.

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1746499)

He didn't call Covid 19 a hoax.

Originally Posted by DONS999 (Post 1746815)

Did you have that much concern when in 2018 850,000 Americans were hospitalized by the flu and 40,000 died

they were family members too

Originally Posted by DONS999 (Post 1746815)

Did you have that much concern when in 2018 850,000 Americans were hospitalized by the flu and 40,000 died

they were family members too

Originally Posted by StephenG (Post 1746442)

Those who sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither and will ultimately receive neither.

Originally Posted by jmarklove (Post 1747057)

People are dying folks, thousands of human beings all over the world. Fact! The issue is what do we value more, money and personal freedom, or human lives. No brainer...

Originally Posted by shariys (Post 1746982)

THERE ARE TREATMENTS for the flu. THERE ARE VACCINES for the flu. Sorry to shout, but the snow must be clogging up your brain.