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Snakster66 03-06-2025 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2413944)
I've been waiting for this technology for a long time. I thought it'd be mainstream by 2000, but still waiting and optimistic!...

It's kind of a running joke. Fusion is always only 20 years away. I mentioned this thread to my son who is graduating from Tennessee in May with a degree in Nuclear Engineering (and if I may brag for a second, he'll be suma cum laude). Starts his PhD program almost immediately. Anyway, he looked at the article and said, "Interesting. I haven't taken much stock in these current 'breakthroughs' because they are still just running for 20 minutes or something. I have been seeing a lot of startups getting funding for demonstrating their design in a couple of years. Which seems optimistic."

The newer fission technologies (molten salt reactors, SMRs, etc) are the more practical exciting advances. Many demonstration units currently under development and/or construction. Plus the hydrogen generation plants being developed as an offshoot (and previously mentioned). Toyota seems to be the major manufacturer who is placing bets on hydrogen. I think they'll win that bet.

Justputt 03-06-2025 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by danglanzsr (Post 2414000)
The old mantra about useable fusion is, “Fusion power is ten years in the future, and always will be.”

That was VERY optimistic! When I was at GA Tech in the late 70s (45 years ago), the fusion engineers said it was 35 years away," and it still is! Understand these research facilities are very finely tuned machines that are extremely expensive to build. On a commercial scale, it would be massively more expensive, then there's regulation, and NIMBY. NIMBY because fusion is how a thermonuclear bomb (H-bomb) works, so tell someone you're going to put one in their back yard!!

bopat 03-06-2025 08:46 AM

No need for fusion when we already have distributed solar with batteries.

golfing eagles 03-06-2025 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2414014)
No need for fusion when we already have distributed solar with batteries.

I hope that's a joke

Snakster66 03-06-2025 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2414020)
I hope that's a joke

I know I laughed.

Justputt 03-06-2025 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2414014)
No need for fusion when we already have distributed solar with batteries.

Kind of like the perpetual motion machine, that can do work indefinitely without an external energy source. The obvious problem is it would violate the first and second laws of thermodynamics.

golfing eagles 03-06-2025 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Justputt (Post 2414033)
Kind of like the perpetual motion machine, that can do work indefinitely without an external energy source. The obvious problem is it would violate the first and second laws of thermodynamics.

C'mon. Never let a few laws of physics get in the way of somebody's "opinion" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

bopat 03-06-2025 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2414020)
I hope that's a joke

Nope. Works great!

golfing eagles 03-06-2025 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2414043)
Nope. Works great!

No comment

Stu from NYC 03-06-2025 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2414050)
No comment

Are you sure?

golfing eagles 03-06-2025 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2414053)
Are you sure?

Any honest and factual response would earn me a vacation

mikemalloy 03-06-2025 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2413767)
If anyone's going to succeed it will be the Chinese. They think differently, whereas we just seem to pour more and more money into the same methodology, with only minor incremental improvements over the decades.

The one in France ($28bn) has recently overtaken China, but I suspect that will be short-lived.

As they continue to build coal fired plants.

Stu from NYC 03-06-2025 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemalloy (Post 2414079)
As they continue to build coal fired plants.

Fusions time has not yet come

jimjamuser 03-06-2025 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2414006)

I guess that they did NOT say WHEN in the 21st century.

Cuervo 03-06-2025 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2413939)
When you can strip hydrogen from water to burn why would you want a car with, essentially, an extension cord? My question is why are we not creating and burning hydrogen in situ now? We have the means.

Most of my driving is within a 200-mile range, I haven't been to a gas station in months. My car charges in a few hours while I sleep and it's ready for me in the morning. Even though hydrogen is cleaner for the environment than ICE and most likely EVs you still like gas have to go to a designated area to refuel. And these hydrogen station will not be manufacturing the hydrogen this will be truck in. You see EVs are better than ICE, when it comes to air pollution, and they also offer convenance. And no, I do not have an extension cord from my house to the car when I'm on the road.


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