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Taltarzac725 06-03-2012 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 500692)
Because its a election year. Boy I think that I heard then all. This makes no sense.

Emotions are very high during Presidential election years because of the constant bombardment of usually negative ads from both sides. It does color how a very high profile case like George Zimmerman's shooting of Trayvon Martin is treated by people in the media and especially groups with a special interest in this case like gun advocacy groups, black pride groups, and others. George Zimmerman case http://www.teapartynation.com/forum/topics/the-prosecutor-in-the-george-zimmerman-case-should-be-disbarredcould hit 2012 presidential race - MJ Lee - POLITICO.com


As to Pappa Muzzy's idea-- the evidence would show if George Zimmerman's head wounds were self-inflicted would be my guess. Mainly from the evidence on Trayvon Martin's hands.

Moderator 06-03-2012 07:34 AM

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Papa Muzzy 06-03-2012 08:57 AM

Stewart case far fetched but google it. Very interesting. If my memory serves me right and being a Villager maybe it doesn't . I think it took them months to figure it out . maybe more. There was even an arrest made . Also caused horrible racial problems we thought were becoming a memory in Boston. This happened only about 20 years ago. Maybe not as much technology then

Taltarzac725 06-03-2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa Muzzy (Post 500779)
Stewart case far fetched but google it. Very interesting. If my memory serves me right and being a Villager maybe it doesn't . I think it took them months to figure it out . maybe more. There was even an arrest made . Also caused horrible racial problems we thought were becoming a memory in Boston. This happened only about 20 years ago. Maybe not as much technology then


I will bet a lot of cop gut instincts were going off during this Stewart investigation. The Trayvon Martin shooting does not seem to be ringing that many bells about who shot whom or even why Zimmerman shot. The how the shooting happened is the big mystery.


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Taltarzac725 06-03-2012 01:16 PM

George Zimmerman is now back in jail according to an e-mail I received a few minutes ago from the Orlando Sentinel.

Defense: George Zimmerman in police custody - seattlepi.com

Papa Muzzy 06-03-2012 02:50 PM

No happy ending for anyone here

Taltarzac725 06-03-2012 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Muzzy (Post 500892)
No happy ending for anyone here

You are right. It is a tragedy to both the Zimmerman and Martin families no matter how this case turns out.

janmcn 06-03-2012 06:01 PM

Atty Mark O'Mara just said in a press conference that George Zimmerman's credibility is an issue. Zimmerman and his wife brought this whole lack of credibility issue on themselves by lying about the money they had. They have nobody to blame but themselves.

Taltarzac725 06-04-2012 08:16 AM

Will George Zimmerman get out of jail after $135,000 lie? - CSMonitor.com

CMANN 06-05-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 501215)

He should have never been in jail in the first place.

paulandjean 06-06-2012 06:24 AM

He never should have been in jail in the first place? All I can say is thank God we live in America,that Zimmerman is in jail where he belongs.That people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson can speak up on the injustice when this case was first being buried because of lack of press.

Taltarzac725 06-06-2012 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 502141)
He never should have been in jail in the first place? All I can say is thank God we live in America,that Zimmerman is in jail where he belongs.That people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson can speak up on the injustice when this case was first being buried because of lack of press.

Hope you are trying to be funny. This case was never buried by lack of the press. It went national 10 days after it happened but was covered by the Florida press. Shooting of Trayvon Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/26/bu...tion.html?_r=1

DaleMN 06-06-2012 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CMANN (Post 502090)
He should have never been in jail in the first place.

That's just ridiculous. :ohdear:

Taltarzac725 06-06-2012 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleMN (Post 502169)
That's just ridiculous. :ohdear:

I agree. We still do not know what happened in the fight between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman and may never know. The Sanford police should have arrested George Zimmerman at the scene and done a proper investigation taking his clothes for evidence and putting down tape at the crime scene and other such steps with respect to preserving the evidence.

Advogado 06-06-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 502176)
I agree. We still do not know what happened in the fight between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman and may never know. The Sanford police should have arrested George Zimmerman at the scene and done a proper investigation taking his clothes for evidence and putting down tape at the crime scene and other such steps with respect to preserving the evidence.

I am not sure that the investigation was as screwed up as was reported in the media-- which has either distorted or lied about a number of facts.

First, despite news reports to the contrary, Zimmerman was, in fact, arrested. He was taken to the police station in handcuffs. That is being arrested by any definition, except that used by the media. He was subsequently released when the police decided that they had insufficient evidence to continue to hold him.

Second, it appears that the police did interview a number of witnesses, a fact not initially reported by the media.

Third, it now appears that Martin's clothes were preserved and tested for gunpowder residue, with the conclusion that he was shot at very close range. That backs up Zimmerman's story. If you are carrying a firearm, as I did professionally for several years, you do not, unless you are a knucklehead, initiate a grappling situation with an adversary-- you may lose control of the firearm. (On the other hand, Zimmerman's conduct, that night and at his bond hearing, indicates that he may well qualify as a knucklehead.)

Fourth, toxicology was, in fact, done on Martin's body and drugs were found, albeit in small amounts.

I am not defending Zimmerman, since we still don't have all the facts. My gripe is with the media's coverage of the incident, the prosecutor's unethical conduct, and demagogues, like Sharpton and Jackson, turning the thing into a racial issue. Let's face the fact that, unfortunately, young men are shot everyday on the streets of our cities in situations not too dissimilar from this one. Very, very few of those shootings are racially motivated. This one, however, has been turned into a racially inflamed circus by demagogues and the media.


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