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graciegirl 07-21-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 911112)
Gov Rick Perry is being praised for sending the national guard to the border to inform the child invaders that there is no health care available in Texas for children.

Sometimes people have to understand that they can't spend more than they make, can't keep having children, giving money to good causes. We first have to pay the bills and take care of our own. That doesn't mean we are unfeeling people. It just means that those who think like we do are the ones that have to clean up the messes and pay the bills for the ones who aren't practical..

Rags123 07-21-2014 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 911080)
A poster early on had a good answer to part of this problem, but it was removed apparently for being too po*****al. Why, I don't know, because many posts after that have been more you-know-what than hers. Anyway, it had to do with limiting the amount of time people could be in office so as to take *******s out of the equation.

Did not see that post. Was it referring to the WH, or what ?

There are TWO discussions getting all bunched together.

1. The current, immediate problem with those folks from Central America. Caused by amnesty in 2012, insecure borders and lack of applying our law, and the 2008 humanitarian law being used as cover.

Recall the amnesty, enforce the law...secure our borders....alter the 2008 law.

2. Overall immigration reform. THIS has become political, and these folks (immigrants) are being used as pawns. Until the WH, Senate and House, at minimum talk to each other, we are in trouble.

Not sure term limits would work....there are pluses, but it will not change the man/woman

Rags123 07-21-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 911112)
Gov Rick Perry is being praised for sending the national guard to the border to inform the child invaders that there is no health care available in Texas for children.

That message should have been delivered a long time ago when Perry and Brewer first began to talk about the problem.

Enforce the law...respect the law

Rags123 07-21-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 911078)
Gov Perry is already asking for federal funds to pay for this deployment, but if congress doesn't approve the funds the president requested, Perry will be on his own.

If they approve the amount the President requested, they should all be impeached, and if they even discuss it before enforcing existing law and getting the border halfway secure, there needs to be public outcry

graciegirl 07-21-2014 05:03 PM

It looks ugly Buggy. But it is the law...and many of us think something has to be done to stop this.

billethkid 07-21-2014 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 911112)
Gov Rick Perry is being praised for sending the national guard to the border to inform the child invaders that there is no health care available in Texas for children.

That is one interpretation that apparently accomplishes something for somebody, however that is not what he is doing!!

perrjojo 07-21-2014 06:09 PM

Let each family who is in favor of allowing these children into the US take 2 or 3 into their home. If we allow these children in, someone must care for them. Institutions and camps are NOT a nurturing environment for children. Who among us will love them..guide them and help them grow into responsible adults and good US citizens? The government can't do that. Only you and I can do that. If you think this is a good idea, sign up to take some of these children into your care.

TexaninVA 07-21-2014 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 911024)
...and for how many years did they endure much worse conditions from where they came?

We should have them resettled as soon as possible.

Ok, here we go again. You say "we" should resettle them soonest etc.

However, I say this is NOT America's problem. The world is full of misery, and always has been. We cannot take everyone on board without sinking the ship.

Thus, instead of saying in effect, someone else needs to solve it, I am still waiting for you or Tennisnut to lead by example. Invite 4 or 5 illegal aliens to come live with you, and then come back and tell us about it.

TexaninVA 07-21-2014 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 911045)
Gov Rick Perry is sending a thousand of his armed National Guardsmen to the border today to confront the children. This should make for some interesting images on the news.

In addition to deploying the military (which I support), the USG needs to demand that Mexico stop the illegal alien flow and make them pay a price (diplomatic, economic or military) if they don't. This is the topic no one ever talks about ... why not??

This is an invasion in every sense of the word except that no shots are being fired.

perrjojo 07-21-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 911197)
Ok, here we go again. You say "we" should resettle them soonest etc.

However, I say this is NOT America's problem. The world is full of misery, and always has been. We cannot take everyone on board without sinking the ship.

Thus, instead of saying in effect, someone else needs to solve it, I am still waiting for you or Tennisnut to lead by example. Invite 4 or 5 illegal aliens to come live with you, and then come back and tell us about it.

Amen...maybe because we both seem to be Texans we better understand the problem of illegal immigration. Who will love these children? You can't just throw money and government programs at them and make it all better. They are children and they need families who love and care about them.... Not some "resettlement camp".

jbdlfan 07-21-2014 06:39 PM

OK, I get all the hyperbole over cost, morals and the such. I ask, what do you do with these kids now? What if we can't figure out where they came from? What if they are truly orphans or unable to find their families? There are thousands of these kids. Send them back? Where? This is a terrible situation that does not have the easy answers everyone professes to have.

Rags123 07-21-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 911202)
Amen...maybe because we both seem to be Texans we better understand the problem of illegal immigration. Who will love these children? You can't just throw money and government programs at them and make it all better. They are children and they need families who love and care about them.... Not some "resettlement camp".

There are those who have only one response..ie., play that card that reduces everyone to unsympathetic, intolerant, racist, and try to lay guilt.

There is no discussion of the real issue; simply an attempt to place guilt in your lap.

Steve & Deanna 07-21-2014 06:43 PM

I'm taking the easy way out and go golfing. Seriously, what will the world do when the US runs OUT OF MONEY and we are taxed at 100%?

eweissenbach 07-21-2014 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jbdlfan (Post 911204)
OK, I get all the hyperbole over cost, morals and the such. I ask, what do you do with these kids now? What if we can't figure out where they came from? What if they are truly orphans or unable to find their families? There are thousands of these kids. Send them back? Where? This is a terrible situation that does not have the easy answers everyone professes to have.

True... If there were easy answers, there would be no problem. God knows our politicians love easy!

Rags123 07-21-2014 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jbdlfan (Post 911204)
OK, I get all the hyperbole over cost, morals and the such. I ask, what do you do with these kids now? What if we can't figure out where they came from? What if they are truly orphans or unable to find their families? There are thousands of these kids. Send them back? Where? This is a terrible situation that does not have the easy answers everyone professes to have.


First of all, the official word is that they will be deported. Of course that is based on the assumption they actually turn up at a hearing.

Secondly, and please do not take this personally, but where was everyone when the governors of the border states were yelling for the last year(s) about this. These states were left on their own, and their simple request was....enforce United States Law !


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