[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by quirky3

Just yesterday, Pope Francis made this statement regarding global warming:

"I don't know if it (human activity) is the only cause, but mostly, in great part, it is man who has slapped nature in the face," he said. "We have in a sense taken over nature."

"I think we have exploited nature too much," Francis said, citing deforestation and monoculture. "Thanks be to God that today there are voices, so many people who are speaking out about it."

Yes and even on the front page of the Daily Sun in today's issue!

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by quirky3

Just yesterday, Pope Francis made this statement regarding global warming:

"I don't know if it (human activity) is the only cause, but mostly, in great part, it is man who has slapped nature in the face," he said. "We have in a sense taken over nature."

"I think we have exploited nature too much," Francis said, citing deforestation and monoculture. "Thanks be to God that today there are voices, so many people who are speaking out about it."

Sure like this Pope.

I did find this interesting article-- http://environmentalresearchweb.org/...cle/news/48293

[outlaw]

I respect ALL religions.

[tedquick]

Originally Posted by tomwed

I have a program named printscreen and it is free and comes from Gadwin. Whatever you see on your screen can be turned into a photo that is stored in a file. By default the files name is printscreen and stored in your documents folder or it might be you photo folder.
I have the same problem when it comes to research. If it's .edu,.gov,.org it moves up my list for credibility. The other day I read 97% of all scientists believe in global warning. I think that was quoted by Al Gore. He's a Harvard graduate and won the Nobel Peace Prize for his work in global warming. So I'm thinking if Gore said "97%" his research team must have verified it before he said it. But I kept getting information showing how that statistic is incorrect.
I'm fortunate that my oldest son has a PHD in mechanical engineering from Johns-Hopkins and his last 2 years were at Stanford. So I can just ask him to explain the science behind most things. Sometimes I even understand him [just kidding].

Tom, thanks for the Gadwin site. Even though I have downloaded 5.4 printscreen I still can't seem to get my graphs to this site. I'll keep at it.

[JourneyOfLife]

There are other implications about energy with our growing world population.

Here are a couple of interesting documentary videos.

This World - Population Growth This one is educational!

Surviving Progress This is also available on Netflix! This one will make you think!!!

[tedquick]

Originally Posted by tomwed

I have a program named printscreen and it is free and comes from Gadwin. Whatever you see on your screen can be turned into a photo that is stored in a file. By default the files name is printscreen and stored in your documents folder or it might be you photo folder.
I have the same problem when it comes to research. If it's .edu,.gov,.org it moves up my list for credibility. The other day I read 97% of all scientists believe in global warning. I think that was quoted by Al Gore. He's a Harvard graduate and won the Nobel Peace Prize for his work in global warming. So I'm thinking if Gore said "97%" his research team must have verified it before he said it. But I kept getting information showing how that statistic is incorrect.
I'm fortunate that my oldest son has a PHD in mechanical engineering from Johns-Hopkins and his last 2 years were at Stanford. So I can just ask him to explain the science behind most things. Sometimes I even understand him [just kidding].

I have NO idea if what I attempted to attach has actually attached, but here it is. This is actually my earlier post but with the 3 graphs that I couldn't get to attach. If this worked then I thank both tomwed and blueash. Blueash, the sources are shown at the very top of each graph.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by tedquick

I have NO idea if what I attempted to attach has actually attached, but here it is. This is actually my earlier post but with the 3 graphs that I couldn't get to attach. If this worked then I thank both tomwed and blueash. Blueash, the sources are shown at the very top of each graph.

Well, nice try but still didn't work. But I see you have posted University of Alabama Huntsville satellite temperature data. Here is the full graph at the bottom of the post. Global Temperature Report :: UAHuntsville Note the trend lines. Almost all the years before the El Nino were below the 30 year average while almost all the year since are above. Additionally this is reflective satellite data, not surface temperatures and does not take at all into account any change in ocean temperatures. An important and overlooked point about temperature. The "so what it is only a degree or two" increase crowd compare that to how little a difference of a 50 degree day feels to how a 52 degree day feels. Not much different, just 4%. A far better model is your own body. When your temp goes from 99 to 103 it is an enormous disrupter of your homeostasis. Even a 2% change from 99 to 101 is maladaptive. The biological homeostasis of our environment is similarly sensitive.

[virgind]

Global warming is only a common ground with which to try and bring the world together as one. The earth is and has been tipping on its axis constantly and will continue to do so. Maybe we do contribute a little bit to the warming but not enough to get to excited about. It's going to happen no matter what we do.

[tedquick]

Originally Posted by blueash

Well, nice try but still didn't work. But I see you have posted University of Alabama Huntsville satellite temperature data. Here is the full graph at the bottom of the post. Global Temperature Report :: UAHuntsville Note the trend lines. Almost all the years before the El Nino were below the 30 year average while almost all the year since are above. Additionally this is reflective satellite data, not surface temperatures and does not take at all into account any change in ocean temperatures. An important and overlooked point about temperature. The "so what it is only a degree or two" increase crowd compare that to how little a difference of a 50 degree day feels to how a 52 degree day feels. Not much different, just 4%. A far better model is your own body. When your temp goes from 99 to 103 it is an enormous disrupter of your homeostasis. Even a 2% change from 99 to 101 is maladaptive. The biological homeostasis of our environment is similarly sensitive.

Not sure, blue what you mean by "it still didn't work". The link downloads a file which opens in another window when I click on it. I have to admit that I like the clarity and convenience of your graph better than my attachment.

[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by virgind

Global warming is only a common ground with which to try and bring the world together as one. The earth is and has been tipping on its axis constantly and will continue to do so. Maybe we do contribute a little bit to the warming but not enough to get to excited about. It's going to happen no matter what we do.

Thanks, now I feel so much better! Sorry kids.

[Chi-Town]

Christian Science Monitor cartoon

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

Yea, right. Whatever. It's -1 in KC right now, 39* below normal. I know it's not as cold as you folks in MN experience, but this is miserable. I keep telling myself "just a couple of more months here".

You just threw cold water on a hot topic.