Well, I have friends whose father beat them when they were children, and they have refused to beat their own children. You can break the cycle. Just saying, that's all.

Agreed, it can be done and I hope he does it. I guess time will tell since we don't have a crystal ball.

Greedy CEOs
 

How do CEOs who companies sales do down get more money and stock options?
Politicians want teacher pay to be performance-based but some of their corporate donors live by a different standard.WTF?

I am not sure I understand your post but private sector jobs and taxpayer funded jobs are of different stripes?

:agree:He has a very good PR team who worked on his image rehab plan before he was even released from prison. He mouths the words of regret & I agree w/you that he has to say that. Probably, his only regret is he got caught and his "BadNewz" friends/business associates cut a deal and rolled on him. Until that happened, he publicly denied his involvement. He tries to explain his crimes by saying it's a way of life where he is from, sorry excuse.
Not a psychologist, but Dr. Phil probably has it right on this one.

Ok, back to the topic of the thread...which is the money, not his crimes so...Does he deserve 100M contract, probably not, but the fans & owners want winning teams, and the owner's must think he can deliver. It's all about the business enterprise. Also, sports figures and entertainers are hero worshiped in this country, so they get a free pass. CEOs are looked at as the greedy boss who makes all the big bucks on the backs of the working person.

If it's there get it
 

If some one is willing to pay it take it. I am in no way saying he is worth it. The owners make a decision an have to live with it. If McDonalds wants to sell cheeseburgers for a nickel who am I to be concerned it is there business to run not mine. The owner can pay him whatever they want.

AGREED:spoken:

That's what I'm talkin about!

:agree:

Still seeing him as a criminal...
 

Core values are difficult, if even possible, to change. He made $ on the dogs and he will make money on the pigskin. Animals seem to be his way of life. Maybe a dog loving quarterback on an opposite team will break his leg...err, of course, accidentally.

How in this world can anyone justify his salary based on how he enhanced his living.His PR team has him covered like jelly. Just remember when you are sitting in your living room during football season, and stand up and yell, "Way To Go, Vick"..you are sending a message to animal rights folks like me...some of whom carried the dying bodies of those dogs from their cages broken, bloody, and dead. And to thousands of kids who know what he did. To make him a hero is to dance with the devil, IMHO. Like many other major sports, its leaders have
momentum, but no heart. Hiring him 'back' is a dangerous message, cheering for him even worse.

Sounds pretty harsh. Do you have some kind of inside information that he is still the same man? Do you think it is right to judge him so severely?

Heres my thoughts and I will upset some people....I think anybody is worth what ever they can get , no matter what they do....Factory workers . truck drivers or quarter backs....I wouldn't want you or anybody else dictate to me how much you think I am worth ! enough said..:spoken:

Yeah! How 'bout them Phils! :bigbow:

:agree: I too love animals, especially dogs...and was appalled by Vick's actions. But I believe he is remorseful about his past. He did his time and he will probably be judged the rest of his life. But I also believe everyone deserves a second chance!

Yes and Yes
 

I have been in rescue for more than 20 years. This was one of the worst situations for volunteer rescuers who often see difficult, dangerous, and deadly scenes. This was a family and friends affair for Michael Vick...who
first proclaimed innocence if you will remember. I would have been happy
if he had not been allowed to become a football player again after his release...and, in the scheme of things, he had a very short sentence. The
rescue community in this Country will not forget what occured and how it
all came down.

I am not willing to turn the other cheek, most murderers don't go back into the world and remake a fortune. I cannot buy into bad
behavior, or 'a changed person'. I'd wager he would still be involved if he hadn't been caught. Please, for those dogs left now in the hands
of volunteer forever homes where the dogs are blind, earless, three legged, toothless...where is their justice? Imagine if you will, what was occuring with the dogs before the police became involved...and for how long...and so secretively.

As we give away our values for a ticket to a football game, we give away
our understanding of reality. Someone has to speak for the dogs. That would be me at the moment. Cheer him on if you must, but do not forget
what actally happened when he started betting on flesh.

:agree:

I wish I could have said it as well as you just did!!! What kind of human does this and why do we make them our heroes? To win a GAME????

Thanks, AngieFox
 

I know there are others out there who feel as we do.

You bet cha. Somethings should not be given a second chance for. I refuse to watch any game that he plays in.

:agree:

Yes, I believe almost everybody deserves a second chance. (except pedophiles)

Very well said. I don't buy that he did not know what he was doing was wrong when he was doing it; therefore I don't believe he has "seen the light and repented." He just did not care. He cared that he got caught.

I watched every episode of the TV series about his dogs in rehab. THOSE dogs are the real heroes. To be able to learn to love and trust after what they have been through.

I'm not upset but I think you're confusing what you're worth with what someone is willing to pay you. Apples and oranges.

Beautifully said. Thank you. How can someone who participated in torturing,
and maiming innocent beings for their own pleasure change; there has to be something missing from his phyche. Can a serial killer be rehabilitated? Money does not bring happiness and hopefully karma will take care of the likes of Michael Vick.:yuck:

You know what else is interesting?
 

I'm an old duffer now...but fortunate to have had my sports loving Dad for
98 years until his passing a few years ago. My Dad always spoke of good
sportsman (woman)-like behavior both on the field, the pool, the court, wherever. And, how that translated to home, hearth, neighbors, business, and relationships. Fair play and thoughts for the so-called 'underdog' or a neophyte player in terms of role model.

I'm not sure at all Mr. Vick learned those same lessons, and certainly not in the decades in which I grew up. For my father, uncles, aunts, "fair play" was
an ingredient in sports endeavors. Athlete was a term endeared by him and
passed from him to his children as almost a title of joy and fairness and strength in all things.. I simply do not know how I would describe to a ten
year old the oxymoron of Michael Vick, what occured, and that 'star' quality
discussed here. Possibly I wouldn't use the word athlete about him, simply,
football player.

This thread has gone to the dogs!

:doggie::doggie::doggie::doggie:

Did the dogs get a second chance?I believe the only REMORSE he feels is getting caught...............

I wish that mr vick could have leveled eyes with the likes of Dick Butkus,I think that he would have understood the fear those dogs felt..........

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:agree: I have Direct TV being installed this AM so we can watch our "Iggles".