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spk7951 08-31-2011 04:43 PM

What I think my be interesting here is that he gets $40 million guaranteed and when he filed for bankruptcy a couple of years ago he had debts of around $20 million, so I am curious to see if those he owes debt to will get repaid in full.

tainsley 08-31-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by spk7951 (Post 388751)
What I think my be interesting here is that he gets $40 million guaranteed and when he filed for bankruptcy a couple of years ago he had debts of around $20 million, so I am curious to see if those he owes debt to will get repaid in full.

Heard on our local news in VA that he will pay back debts approximately $19 million to his debtors.

Bosoxfan 08-31-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by villagegolfer (Post 388479)
This deal puts him in the same category as Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. I don't think so. Brady and Manning are proven champions and have played at the highest plateau for many years.

Vick shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Brady & Manning...Leave it to Philly. !!:cus:

spk7951 08-31-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tainsley (Post 388754)
Heard on our local news in VA that he will pay back debts approximately $19 million to his debtors.

Glad to hear that, thanks.

Russ_Boston 08-31-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 388756)
Vick shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Brady & Manning...Leave it to Philly. !!:cus:

And a couple of others. I'm just not that thrilled with him as a QB. Still thows a low %. But he does run away from trouble sometimes with his great speed.

angiefox10 08-31-2011 07:32 PM

Micheal Vick did not just fight dogs... If they didn't preform he would smash them into the pavement and electricuted them, he would pull their teeth out, he would hang them and let them back down so he could watch them suffer while they died a slow death. He broke some of their legs and derowned others.

When Dr. Phil talked about him, he said that someone who would do something like he did had a very sick mind and would not just "rehab" that easily.

Does he "say" he's sorry... Of course he does. If he was in any othe profession, this would be unacceptable.

Casey Anthony was said to be Not Guilty and the same people here are outraged.... She just isn't a football star! Sick is sick!

villagegolfer 08-31-2011 07:34 PM

Wow, Dr Phil said that? Must be true, huh?

GeorgeT 08-31-2011 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 388821)
Micheal Vick did not just fight dogs... If they didn't preform he would smash them into the pavement and electricuted them, he would pull their teeth out, he would hang them and let them back down so he could watch them suffer while they died a slow death. He broke some of their legs and derowned others.

When Dr. Phil talked about him, he said that someone who would do something like he did had a very sick mind and would not just "rehab" that easily.

Does he "say" he's sorry... Of course he does. If he was in any othe profession, this would be unacceptable.

Casey Anthony was said to be Not Guilty and the same people here are outraged.... She just isn't a football star! Sick is sick!

Angie,

You opened my eyes to this POS. I didn't realize how badly he treated his dogs. I did a search on him and read things that made me sick. IMO he should have gotten at least 10 years thereby ending his football career. Given the opportunity he'd probably do it again.

villagegolfer 08-31-2011 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeT (Post 388851)
Angie,

You opened my eyes to this POS. I didn't realize how badly he treated his dogs. I did a search on him and read things that made me sick. IMO he should have gotten at least 10 years thereby ending his football career. Given the opportunity he'd probably do it again.

Not to start anything, but why are you so sure about that?:ohdear:

GeorgeT 08-31-2011 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by villagegolfer (Post 388857)
Not to start anything, but why are you so sure about that?:ohdear:

No problem VG,

I'm not sure that's why I used the word "probably". He himself said it's the way he was brought up and I think it's hard to change your roots.

villagegolfer 08-31-2011 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeT (Post 388862)
No problem VG,

I'm not sure that's why I used the word "probably". He himself said it's the way he was brought up and I think it's hard to change your roots.

Well, I have friends whose father beat them when they were children, and they have refused to beat their own children. You can break the cycle. Just saying, that's all.

GeorgeT 08-31-2011 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by villagegolfer (Post 388864)
Well, I have friends whose father beat them when they were children, and they have refused to beat their own children. You can break the cycle. Just saying, that's all.

Agreed, it can be done and I hope he does it. I guess time will tell since we don't have a crystal ball.

saratogaman 08-31-2011 08:57 PM

Greedy CEOs
 
How do CEOs who companies sales do down get more money and stock options?
Politicians want teacher pay to be performance-based but some of their corporate donors live by a different standard.WTF?

villagegolfer 08-31-2011 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by saratogaman (Post 388877)
How do CEOs who companies sales do down get more money and stock options?
Politicians want teacher pay to be performance-based but some of their corporate donors live by a different standard.WTF?

I am not sure I understand your post but private sector jobs and taxpayer funded jobs are of different stripes?

jojoin 08-31-2011 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 388821)
Micheal Vick did not just fight dogs... If they didn't preform he would smash them into the pavement and electricuted them, he would pull their teeth out, he would hang them and let them back down so he could watch them suffer while they died a slow death. He broke some of their legs and derowned others.

When Dr. Phil talked about him, he said that someone who would do something like he did had a very sick mind and would not just "rehab" that easily.

Does he "say" he's sorry... Of course he does. If he was in any othe profession, this would be unacceptable.

Casey Anthony was said to be Not Guilty and the same people here are outraged.... She just isn't a football star! Sick is sick!

:agree:He has a very good PR team who worked on his image rehab plan before he was even released from prison. He mouths the words of regret & I agree w/you that he has to say that. Probably, his only regret is he got caught and his "BadNewz" friends/business associates cut a deal and rolled on him. Until that happened, he publicly denied his involvement. He tries to explain his crimes by saying it's a way of life where he is from, sorry excuse.
Not a psychologist, but Dr. Phil probably has it right on this one.

Ok, back to the topic of the thread...which is the money, not his crimes so...Does he deserve 100M contract, probably not, but the fans & owners want winning teams, and the owner's must think he can deliver. It's all about the business enterprise. Also, sports figures and entertainers are hero worshiped in this country, so they get a free pass. CEOs are looked at as the greedy boss who makes all the big bucks on the backs of the working person.


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