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What about metal detectors? Seems to work at the airport.

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1653886)

What about metal detectors? Seems to work at the airport.

Some good reading here.. 5 reasons metal detectors in schools are a bad idea, according to security expert - masslive.com

And here..
School Metal Detectors - School SecuritySchool Security

K, I read that article. ”Invest in people” in particular resonates with me. If it means guns, hire school police for each school, if it means education, train for tolerance and understanding and if it refers to bullying, train for conflict resolution.

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1653868)

THE OP ASKED**Should trained teachers be able to carry a gun in schools???**

Who was that OP???.............I think we should Strap 'Em Up!!!

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1653897)

Who was that OP???.............I think we should Strap 'Em Up!!!

Haha. Sometimes it's easy to read into sarcasm.
Steve

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1653906)

Haha. Sometimes it's easy to read into sarcasm.
Steve

Sure is an amusing topic, isn't it ?

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1653723)

I am on the fence, but if you qualify for concealed carry, I would support open carry in a holster for all. I believe anyone that would kill an unarmed person is a coward and would be deterred from doing so if they thought their victim could defend themselves.

Seems to me that an "open carry" person would be the first target.

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1653656)

I understand people wanting to “harden” certain areas. What I would like to say is that if we live with a bunker mentality, we are dominated by our fears. Please look at what happens in societies that are run by guns.

I propose a gentler, safer, freer and more disciplined society. One that is adequately guarded by its police and military.

In my years as a teacher I have seen a great reduction of discipline, both in school and at home. Loving, enabling, misguided parents are often shocked by the self-absorbed, entitled kids that result from their efforts.

I remember a student in our gifted program (in a public school) whose very established parents were having a meeting with our principal. They were planning his grade 7 math program. The parents brought their own lawyer to the meeting to make sure the curriculum presented to Max, their son, would be up to their satisfaction.

Several years later, my daughter who was the same age as this gifted student, was enrolled in the same high school. One day I asked her, “How’s Max doing?” She told me he dropped out and became the local drug dealer.

In the transition phase to my ideal society we could have police assigned to be in the schools. They would be trained to get to know the kids and the parents. Be a resource and a friend. And they would have their guns too.

I propose a gentler, safer, freer and more disciplined society. One that is adequately guarded by its police and military.

OK then, meet me at 10:00 PM on M L King BLVD, and we can talk to the folks there about a gentler, safer, freer society. Yeah, that'll work. BTW way, don't come unarmed.:boom:

You know, I just can’t give up hope, I can’t give up on people, and my specialty is to work with the young, and give them the tools to build the world they want.

Yes, I could come armed. But why? To defend myself... then why would I be going there (I’m not sure where the place you mentioned is, but it sounds rough) in the first place.

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1653927)

Oh my, you've done it now, here they come. You are automatically wrong BobnBev. You aligned your beliefs against the Tag Team.

Your post is spot on Bob or Bev. Guess some people read about the hood while others worked in it, passed through it to get to work, have family and friends who live there and can't break the cycle to get out. People who send their children to school and worry if they will make the day and get home at all. The argument or conversation here is useless and pitiful. Some people have a message that is just on a loop, wait and sit for a post to pick apart just to stir the pot.

DOUBLE STRAP UP The Teachers, The Custodian's, The Lunch Ladies, whatever it takes try something before the same thing occurs again. Just do it! Protect the children. Period!

“Those who live by the sword, die by the sword.”

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1653932)

“Those who live by the sword, die by the sword.”

Not when nobody knows you have the sword. That's the key. CONCEALED CARRY. Nobody lays a gun on the desk.

Your peaceful way is definitely way better but that ship has sailed.

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1653932)

“Those who live by the sword, die by the sword.”

I think that was Tony Soprano's, and all of the Tony Soprano wannabe's out there...main motto.

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1653935)

I think that was Tony Soprano's, and all of the Tony Soprano wannabe's out there...main motto.

Tony Soprano wannabes? That's funny...
Innuendo noted
Steve

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1653418)

And again I ask....how well did that work at Majory Stoneman Douglas High??
Steve

Turn that right around. You have officers whose actual job is to use a firearm if necessary, to protect, serve, and keep kids safe. They couldn't manage to do that.

But you're betting on teachers, who are NOT hired to protect and keep kids safe, but who are hired to TEACH...to be ready, willing, and able to a) fire a weapon, b) at an assailant, while c) not accidentally shooting one of his own students who panicks and gets in the way, d) being of mental and emotional ability to handle the consequences of the possibility of "c)" and e) being prepared to kill someone, mentally, physically, and emotionally, while f) not being able to consult with the psychologist and talk it out first because it's happening right this second and they're a teacher, not a cop.

I don't care how well-trained they are. They're not paid killers. They know they're not paid killers. But in order to stop a freak with an AR-15, you'd better be not only a paid killer, but damned good at it.

I wouldn't trust my kids with someone who is paid to be my kids' teacher, and volunteers to carry a firearm to protect my kids from someone with a firearm. I'd pull them from that school and if necessary, move to a state that doesn't allow it.