Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2217451)

A bill was was recently signed into law by the governor of Florida which states healthcare professionals, including insurance companies, can't be forced to violate their religious and moral/conscience convictions in order to treat a patient. Florida healthcare can now be denied based on moral, ethical, or religious beliefs.Its not just doctors, its ambulance drivers, hospitals, nurses, insurance companies, etc. So a pharmacist could refuse to fill a prescription for birth control. A doctor or nurse could refuse to help deliver the baby of a single woman, due to her lifestyle choice. An ambulance driver could refuse to pick up a gay person with Aids. The law is extremely discriminatory against LGBTQ people. A gay person in a nursing home could find themselves at risk of losing health care services, for example. I find this absolutely horrifying that it is now legal in Florida for doctors and other health care professionals to deny health care to anyone simply because they feel like it. We should be increasing access to medical care, not giving these companies and providers the right to discriminate and opt out.

Originally Posted by fishon (Post 2217457)

I’m not horrified. Sounds good to me.

Originally Posted by John Mayes (Post 2217636)

Have you read the actual bill?

Originally Posted by John Mayes (Post 2217638)

Have you read the actual bill?

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2217628)

paging @golfingeagles
paging @golfingeagles

needed in the legal library STAT!

Slow down peeps!
CMS reimbursements for all kinds of healthcare activities is a large part of the operating revenue of most hospitals. Part of that reimbursement is the participation in all the CMS requirements and programs

Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA) | CMS

EMTALA is one of them. A hospital with an emergency room and receiving medicare reimbursements, would be in violation and would risk jeopardizing their reimbursements and payments if they voluntarily turned away people for these arbitrary reasons. Most hospitals would not want to do that.

So, the effects of the little dictator are not currently clear in regards to different healthcare scenarios. Many hospital systems also have policies in place for health care workers to not work in areas which they have religious objections, such as an abortion clinic. However, a healthcare worker would not abstain from rending care in the case of the mother bleeding out afterwards. . .

So these statutes have just been past, and there will be time needed to determine if the governor is over reaching in his state's rights legislation.

advice from coachk who works with CMS, reimbursements, the state of MA and the electronic medical records system which is the basis for reporting and compliance.

and written by sportsguy

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2217641)

So if you have a medical emergency, you're okay with the doctor saying "sorry but you offend me, my god is against [insert some feature you have, such as eye color or height] so you'll just have to leave the hospital now. You are not welcome here."

Originally Posted by Trayderjoe (Post 2217683)

Yeah……not true. The bill (link) includes: “ (6)REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY MEDICAL TREATMENT.
This section may not be construed to override any requirement to provide emergency medical treatment in accordance with state law or the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act, 42 U.S.C. s. 1395dd.”

Based upon reading this bill, it would appear to provide protection from HAVING to conduct gender altering surgery on minors for example, or HAVING to abort a fetus regardless of the period of gestation if there is a conscious based objection to those procedures.

The bill provides requirements for a health care provider’s notice and documentation of such objection; requiring health care providers to notify patients or potential patients seeking a specific health care service of any such objection BEFORE scheduling an appointment.

If the procedures are necessary due to a MEDICAL EMERGENCY, then circle back to the medical emergency requirement.

There will be those in the medical field who do not have a conscious objection and will perform such procedures since this bill does NOT BAN the procedures.

I remember a commercial when I was a kid about RIF. Remember it? RIF = Reading is Fundamental

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2217641)

So if you have a medical emergency, you're okay with the doctor saying "sorry but you offend me, my god is against [insert some feature you have, such as eye color or height] so you'll just have to leave the hospital now. You are not welcome here."

Originally Posted by fishon (Post 2217457)

I’m not horrified. Sounds good to me.

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2217571)

“Healthcare at Risk”? This hate-based horror, including misogyny, goes well beyond the potential for risk.

So life and death decisions can now be based on nothing more than the subjectivity of anyone working at any level of healthcare?

This looks to me like it grants a “License to Kill.”

Hmmm, for those who jump on this law’s bandwagon, ya know…..there could be some working in healthcare who decide it’s time for old, white people in the hospital to go see Jesus….

Think! Please think!

Boomer

Originally Posted by jmintzer (Post 2217671)

don't be silly... Of course they haven't...

Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2217451)

A bill was was recently signed into law by the governor of Florida which states healthcare professionals, including insurance companies, can't be forced to violate their religious and moral/conscience convictions in order to treat a patient. Florida healthcare can now be denied based on moral, ethical, or religious beliefs.Its not just doctors, its ambulance drivers, hospitals, nurses, insurance companies, etc. So a pharmacist could refuse to fill a prescription for birth control. A doctor or nurse could refuse to help deliver the baby of a single woman, due to her lifestyle choice. An ambulance driver could refuse to pick up a gay person with Aids. The law is extremely discriminatory against LGBTQ people. A gay person in a nursing home could find themselves at risk of losing health care services, for example. I find this absolutely horrifying that it is now legal in Florida for doctors and other health care professionals to deny health care to anyone simply because they feel like it. We should be increasing access to medical care, not giving these companies and providers the right to discriminate and opt out.