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Berwin 08-09-2022 07:46 AM
100% chance. One of my sons has had a Toyota Prius for over 10 years and still no issues with the battery. He did get his catalytic converter stolen, though. For long trips, we will use our RV and tow our Jeep as usual.

merrymini 08-09-2022 07:50 AM
I owned a Tesla 3. Great car. You would plan long distance trips and for the most part, there are plenty of quick chargers. You can charge about 170 miles in about 20 minutes. I also own a Prius, this is my third, and I remember everybody being afraid of the batteries. I get about 55 miles to the gallon, terrific car. By the way, demand is so great I sold my used Tesla for a profit. Everything has a waste issue but the advantage of the electric is no emissions. That being said, until the battery technology improves, all electric is not feasible.

Joe C. 08-09-2022 07:51 AM
I don't plan on buying electric. Have you seen how dangerous lithium batteries are? FIRE HAZARDS ...... I've seen videos of charging stations where the cars are parked side by side and plugged in. Suddenly one bursts into flames, and within seconds, the car next to it catches fire, as do the rest down the line. And once it catches fire, it's almost impossible to put it out.


So, I don't plan on having one in my garage, plugged in overnight.

Forget the fact that they are expensive, and cause more pollution just making the batteries for them. Then there is the expended battery disposal issue ..... nobody wants them.
And then, there's the part that everybody forgets about, and that is the amount of money the state and Uncle Sam makes off of the gasoline tax. As soon as the revenue from the gas tax drops, guess who is going to get another whopping tax increase?
I think that I'll stick with my gasoline engine.

srswans 08-09-2022 07:54 AM
Agree - Mostly
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2124012)
In my opinion, this is a no brainer. From a cost standpoint, there is no evidence that buying and owning an electric vehicle will save any money at all. Rather, it will probably cost you more money. If you are concerned about the environment, there doesn't seem to be any clear cut evidence that buying an electric vehicle will do anything to improve the environment, because making and disposing of the batteries will do substantial harm to the environment. Also, other countries aren't on board with with any of this environment saving endeavor. It seems to me that, if you really want to help the environment, then why not just buy a smaller car, drive less, and stay off of airplanes? And, if you are a snowbird why not sell one of your houses and only live in one of them? I don't hear anyone promoting the concept of just using less energy. There are lots of ways to reduce your carbon footprint, without buying an electric vehicle. The idea that electric vehicles are the answer to saving the environment is ridiculous.

I'm not suggesting that anyone do any of these things, but they would be a lot more effective than buying an electric vehicle. End of rant.
Yeah, buying EV probably won’t save you money in the long run - close to break even I suspect.

It will be better for carbon emissions though, even accounting for the manufacturing footprint. Gas cars also have a large manufacturing and maintenance (oil) footprint.

Batteries are likely to be reused in the future which is better than recycling.

I strongly agree with your suggestion that we all should cut down on energy use. No one talks about this enough.

Pachine58 08-09-2022 07:54 AM
No, the technology is not there. The infrastructure is not there.
The batteries are so toxic and no way to dispose of them plus the cost of replacement.

ThirdOfFive 08-09-2022 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2123743)
With all the news re Electric vehicles, how likely are YOU to purchase one? If not, why not?

For me, our 5 year old gas vehicle is perfectly fine for many many years. And at our tax rate cannot use any Tax Credit to lower price. But if our situation changed I would consider.
Two answers to that. No way and no how.

Two reasons. First, the Rav4 still has close to 40,000 miles left on a bumper-to-bumper warranty and we get 40 MPG on the highway. AND we own it.

Second, I'm not a fan of the eco bee ess surrounding electric vehicles. That electricity comes from somewhere and if people knew just where, there'd be a lot less of them tooling around in an electric vehicle. Well over three fifths of our electricity is generated by burning fossil fuels. Nuclear is 18.9%. Barely a fifth of our electricity is generated by renewables and a lot of that consists of burning wood, landfill gas and municipal solid waste.

psgolf@comcast.net 08-09-2022 08:07 AM
Zero chance also

Vermilion Villager 08-09-2022 08:08 AM
My Tesla has about 300 miles range. I can charge it every night if I wished (I don't) so I know I will always have a full tank every morning. I use this vehicle for about 95% of my driving. I do have another vehicle that has gas powered and I suppose if I felt the need I would use that for a longer trip.

NoMo50 08-09-2022 08:10 AM
I won't even buy an electric golf cart, let alone a full size vehicle. Yes, advancements have and are being made with EVs. But, at this time they are still not ready for prime time. I doubt we will see the necessary infrastructure to support wide scale EV use in my lifetime.

And please, don't be fooled into thinking you're saving the planet. A better question to ask is: Cui Bono...who benefits? If an EV fits your lifestyle, and makes you happy, that's great. For me, it's a non-starter.

obxgal 08-09-2022 08:19 AM
Zero chance.

Caymus 08-09-2022 08:25 AM
Probably if I live long enough. When will the self-driving cars be available?

terenceanne 08-09-2022 08:27 AM
Down the road I would consider it but for now the technology and infrastructure is not there as others have pointed out. Since the engine has virtual no moving parts the manufacturers could built it for half the price - but as always there's profit to be made by charging more for less.

tophcfa 08-09-2022 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Vikingjunior (Post 2124055)
I think it's dangerous to not be able to hear a car. I'm not talking Harley Davidson loud but I want people to be able to hear me coming and I want to be able to hear people coming. I can see accident statistics rising especially in large cities.
Also people who live in apartments, condos, condominiums will still need to constantly go to a charging station.
interest rates going up and electric cars already being expensive is not a good formula.
By the way there is a chip shortage further adding to the chaos of electric cars.

This whole thing has been one big rush job and is not going to be a smooth transition.
You are very correct about the dangers of not being able to hear electric cars. My older brother is blind and he hates electric cars because he can’t hear them coming and has had several close encounters. His guide dog has saved his life more than once pulling him from the path of an electric car he never heard coming toward him.

tophcfa 08-09-2022 08:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by srswans (Post 2124110)
All new cars have obnoxious electronics - gas and electric. I’m thinking of buying a good, 20 year old vehicle and fixing it up.
One of the primary reasons used car prices have gone through the roof.

Blackbird45 08-09-2022 08:56 AM
Beside climate change it would be nice not to bend the knee to Saudi Arabia every time there is an oil shortage. National security.


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