[dewilson58]

Better batteries, more competition, lower pricing needed first.

[mtdjed]

Electric Vehicles sound good but are not for everyone. Given the need, perhaps good for local transportation.

First, they are not "Green". To power you must plug into the Grid (Which is not free) and consume energy from the grid which is still only 17% sourced from renewable energy. Battery manufacturing is in its infancy and is not a clean process.

Second, there are sacrifices required to obtain maximum efficiencies. The Tesla model 3 is rated for 329 moles per charge. That is at 50 MPH and it falls to 238 at 70 MPH. It cannot pull a trailer, boat etc and still get the milage. Using AC, Heat, etc further reduces range.

Third, the infrastructure for recharging is not in place.

Read the attached EV1000 mile race for long distance experiences. Seems like a totally different travel experience.

I just traveled 1500 miles through GA, NC, VA, WV, MD, PA, NY, CN ,and MA. Several delays (1 @ 1Hour on the road). I stopped when personal needs. Filled up while stopped if needed. Never stopped specifically for fuel. Drove at 70 MPH or whatever speed limits were.

The EV 1000: 11 EVs Face Off in a Long-Distance Race

[Michael G.]

It's to bad EV's doesn't have some kind of generator that generates electrical power back as the vehicle is driven
by a gas-powered engine or other way.

Even solar power would work to charge battery's here in sunny Florida.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Our Toyota hybrid allows you to either use or not use the automatic assist steering. We love our hybrid and will absolutely purchase a fully electric vehicle once our Toyota gets old.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

For us to consider one, the following would need to apply:

- it would have to be economical relative to other options, including initial cost, fuel, and long term expenses including battery replacement, and expected service life
- it would need to have both the range and refueling speed of a gas vehicle as well as widespread availability of refueling locations when traveling
- it would need to have significant ground clearance, either 4WD or AWD capability, and the ability to tow a heavy load
- in the event the vehicle got stuck In traffic/congestion for extended periods of time, it would need to have the ability to run the HVAC system (heat or A/C) for extended periods of time without rapidly exhausting the fuel source
- any vehicle would never be considered with self driving features, electronic tracking devices, or other obnoxious electronic features that take control away from the vehicle operator
- it would have to be made by someone other than the Muskrat of Elon

So in conclusion, it appears there is a zero chance in my lifetime.

Our Toyota hybrid allows you to either use or not use the automatic assist steering. We love our hybrid and will absolutely purchase a fully electric vehicle when our current Toyota needs to be replaced. It's not just about us, it's also about the environment.

[La lamy]

My next car will probably be a hybrid, but I'm pampering my 19 yr old for as long as I can.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

Our Toyota hybrid allows you to either use or not use the automatic assist steering. We love our hybrid and will absolutely purchase a fully electric vehicle when our current Toyota needs to be replaced. It's not just about us, it's also about the environment.

Have you done any comprehensive, unbiased reading regarding the true environmental impact of electronic vehicles, their batteries and disposal, required elements for the batteries, creation and disposal of solar panels, turbines and so forth? America can be lazy when it comes to research. Also, the biggest polluters will still be operating. For example, I don’t believe you’ll see many electric earth movers.

[Djean1981]

We have a plug-in hybrid, the best of both worlds. If just running around the villages, it stays on electric. But we can still take a long road trip without the need to charge.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

Our Toyota hybrid allows you to either use or not use the automatic assist steering. We love our hybrid and will absolutely purchase a fully electric vehicle when our current Toyota needs to be replaced. It's not just about us, it's also about the environment.

Developing countries pay environmental cost of electric car batteries | UNCTAD

‘Like slave and master’: DRC miners toil for 30p an hour to fuel electric cars | Africa | The Guardian

https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...icas+Mines.pdf

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Zero chance

Dittos

[starflyte1]

zero chance

[Keefelane66]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

It's to bad EV's doesn't have some kind of generator that generates electrical power back as the vehicle is driven
by a gas-powered engine or other way.

Even solar power would work to charge battery's here in sunny Florida.

Then it would be a hybrid. motor, battery with regenerative breaking

[OrangeCrush]

Hubs isn't keen on it at this time, but we may consider a good used hybrid if we found one. Our two previous neighbors each have a Tesla and love them, but one of them who travels a lot pointed out that there's things to consider: 1) Electricity and costs to 'fuel' your baby, 2) When electricity goes out for a few days, you need a generator (whole-house or portable) or solar energy (may need to get a battery to store some energy, especially during days of little or no sun), and 3) Taking long trips requires planning. It takes our neighbor 3-4 days to get up to Denver, CO because he needs to find an EV post to plug into along the way. Around town and short trips are a breeze. There's also consideration for old battery disposal, but that's another issue. We love our F-150 Ford Lariat diesel truck, and she gets awesome fuel mileage...600 miles until fill up (30 mpg highway) (27-28 mpg in town).

[Velvet]

Out of the question at this time. Way too much trouble.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Keefelane66

Currently I have a 2022 Toyota Carolla and can boast on out trip Villages to Westerly Ri 20 gallons of gas 1350 miles all highway 67.5 mpg. Consistently this summer traveling in New Enhland 65mpg. Probably our next vehicle will be a plugin hybrid. There are plenty of recharge stations all over.
If our world was just The Villages to Tampa and Orlando we would have just an EV.

Didnt know gasoline engines would yield 65 mpg. My 2021 camry will get up to 40 mpg on straight highway driving and happy with that