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CybrSage 06-09-2025 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruger2506 (Post 2437391)
Well lets get this straight right from the get go. All property taxes are theft. They are extortion.

Theft is an unlawful taking. Taxes are lawful. Therefore, taxes are not theft.
The 10th Amendment to the US Constitution gives the States the power to tax. The State Constitutions give the counties, etc, the power to tax.

All that said, feel free to move to where there are no personal and property taxes. Bahrain, Monaco, and Oman do not have personal taxes and do not have property taxes. Which one will you move to? Happiness can be yours. :)

CybrSage 06-09-2025 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2437412)
Agree.

Theft is an unlawful taking. State taxes are made lawful by the 10th amendment to the US Constitution and the various State Constitutionfederal taxes are made legal by the
Taxes are therefore not theft.
The 16th Amendment made federal taxes legal.

CybrSage 06-09-2025 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by petsetc (Post 2437554)
I content this statement is exactly the oppose of the truth. Sales tax is a regressive tax that shifts the burden to the poor (less well off) since they spend even penny to get by, where as the rich have more income than they require to live and can save/invest/travel (spending their money outside FL), etc.

It is the exact opposite. A $100,000 car has $10,000 tax bill at a 10% sales tax rate. A $10,000 car only has a $1,000 tax bill

According to you, the guy who paid $9,000 less in taxes is paying more in taxes. Yes, that is as silly as it sounds when written plainly.

crash 06-09-2025 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruger2506 (Post 2437318)
Not enough. Come on DeSantis! Let’s kill property taxes.

The worst idea ever. It would put all local funding in the hands of the state to save $350. One city ****es off the governor he cuts funding to force them to toe the line.

justjim 06-09-2025 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruger2506 (Post 2437318)
Not enough. Come on DeSantis! Let’s kill property taxes.

How will the local taxing entities be supported if you do away with property taxes? Will never happen IMHO.

Pugchief 06-09-2025 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruger2506 (Post 2437631)
The premise that taxation is theft is based on the fact we do not have a choice about paying taxes and there are significant consequences to us not holding up our "end of the bargain" in a contract to which we did not agree to be a part of.

I have to disagree with this. When you purchased your home, you surely knew that the property was subject to annual real estate taxes. Therefore, you implicitly agreed to "the contract" by following through with the sale.

The same applies to almost any other tax. You know when you walk into a store that FL imposes a 7% sales tax, so by buying you agree to "the contract" to pay that tax. Just bc you don't like the tax doesn't mean you don't agree to pay it.

Pballer 06-09-2025 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2437325)
This is probably the mechanism DeSantis will use.
He will only eliminate property taxes on residents (i.e. with the homestead exemption).
Non residents will still pay

JUST MY OPINION.

The whole Florida low tax miracle is built upon screwing over tourists and non-residents with high taxes. Why should anything change? Florida can do this because of its location. Move it north a few degrees in latitude and it would be another Mississippi.

Ruger2506 06-09-2025 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2437801)
I have to disagree with this. When you purchased your home, you surely knew that the property was subject to annual real estate taxes. Therefore, you implicitly agreed to "the contract" by following through with the sale.

The same applies to almost any other tax. You know when you walk into a store that FL imposes a 7% sales tax, so by buying you agree to "the contract" to pay that tax. Just bc you don't like the tax doesn't mean you don't agree to pay it.

Not true because you have no choice. You have to live somewhere. If you rent a place, the taxes are built into the rent. If you want to build a place out of lumber, you cut off your own property somehow that piece of **** taxman still shows up to get his cut. If you wanna live in a tent, you gotta pay taxes on the tent. There are simply nothing you can do to put a roof over your head and not pay tax. Therefore, you are being held hostage into a contract you didn’t sign up for.


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