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Carla B 08-29-2021 01:41 PM

Deleted my post since, contrary to what the OP intended, thread deteriorated from reporting concern for residents to arguing whether disaster-prone areas of the U.S. should receive Federal aid.

Update, Monday: Son's ship that is moored at Port Sulphur on the Miss. Rr. held fast and crew of ten are safe.

Michael G. 08-29-2021 02:25 PM

I realize people have to live near their work or near love ones.
There's also many places in the nation that has distractive weather, tornados, hail, snow storms
sub-zero temps w/high winds etc.

But my questions has to be ask:
Why do you choose to live near oceans and gulf waters gambling on water surge?
Why would you choose to live "Below sea level"?


The above area's have the largest threat for destruction in the world annually.
Can you find any common sense out of all this??

That water front view carry's a lot of aggravation and unknown.

Gordon W 08-29-2021 03:55 PM

katrina
 
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Originally Posted by gator17 (Post 1995926)
And where would you suggest they move the port of New Orleans to? A lot of commerce is shipped via that port up and down the Mississippi River and a lot of "those people" work that port. I lived in New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina struck - I was fortunate to be able to evacuate out of the city, many who have families that have lived there for generations were not able to as they relied on public transportation. The lower ninth ward had many families that live within the blocks of each other or on the same street - great-grandmother, grandmother, sons, daughters, children, grandchildren, who did not have the means to get out. The whole response was a giant cluster-f**k and many people died. Several parts of the city are still devastated and will never be rebuilt. But, I ask again - where do want the river traffic to go?

katrina, I worked 6 mos cleaning up after Katrina, I had family there, I saw a 36' sailboat in our back yard 20' in the trees, god bless Slidell, the sail boat is still there, maybe not tomorrow

CFrance 08-29-2021 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 1996222)
I realize people have to live near their work or near love ones.
There's also many places in the nation that has distractive weather, tornados, hail, snow storms
sub-zero temps w/high winds etc.

But my questions has to be ask:
Why do you choose to live near oceans and gulf waters gambling on water surge?
Why would you choose to live "Below sea level"?


The above area's have the largest threat for destruction in the world annually.
Can you find any common sense out of all this??

That water front view carry's a lot of aggravation and unknown.

There were a lot of people in New Orleans (9th Ward especially) who didn't have a waterfront view in 2005.

Anyone who wants to know exactly how it was back then should read 1 Dead in Attic.

Escape Artist 08-29-2021 07:26 PM

Why not just abandon New Orleans? Just keep it as a historical theme park for tourists in the French Quarter and other areas of cultural significance, but allow no one should be allowed to live in any of the areas directly affected by hurricanes. Yes, I know all of Louisiana is ultimately affected by hurricanes, as I have friends who live in Baton Rogue, but New Orleans gets the brunt of it for obvious reasons. Loss of lives, property, homes, devastation, flooding, etc. not to mention billions of dollars in relief funds can be avoided by some clear, innovative thinking.

biker1 08-29-2021 07:38 PM

So, you are suggesting that the Government use eminent domain to take people's property? Good luck with that. There are many other areas where the same argument can be made. I don't see it happening there either.

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Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1996340)
Why not just abandon New Orleans? Just keep it as a historical theme park for tourists in the French Quarter and other areas of cultural significance, but allow no one should be allowed to live in any of the areas directly affected by hurricanes. Yes, I know all of Louisiana is ultimately affected by hurricanes, as I have friends who live in Baton Rogue, but New Orleans gets the brunt of it for obvious reasons. Loss of lives, property, homes, devastation, flooding, etc. not to mention billions of dollars in relief funds can be avoided by some clear, innovative thinking.


Mrprez 08-29-2021 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1996340)
Why not just abandon New Orleans? Just keep it as a historical theme park for tourists in the French Quarter and other areas of cultural significance, but allow no one should be allowed to live in any of the areas directly affected by hurricanes. Yes, I know all of Louisiana is ultimately affected by hurricanes, as I have friends who live in Baton Rogue, but New Orleans gets the brunt of it for obvious reasons. Loss of lives, property, homes, devastation, flooding, etc. not to mention billions of dollars in relief funds can be avoided by some clear, innovative thinking.

Any of the areas affected by hurricanes would include all coastal areas from Key West north to roughly Virginia Beach and west to Brownsville, Tx. Then why stop at hurricanes. What about Nor’easters? Maine to Wilmington, NC. What about earthquakes, tornadoes, forest fires, mudslides, rising sea levels. There’s a big one. According to the climate activists, we have what 11 years until the sea levels rise. Shouldn’t we be proactive and start moving inland? Start with Long Island and Manhattan. Relocate everything and everyone off those two islands. Cease all development anywhere 50 miles from the coastal areas. We need to be ready for the inevitable. Time is short.

Nah, all stupid ideas.

Aces4 08-29-2021 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1996340)
Why not just abandon New Orleans? Just keep it as a historical theme park for tourists in the French Quarter and other areas of cultural significance, but allow no one should be allowed to live in any of the areas directly affected by hurricanes. Yes, I know all of Louisiana is ultimately affected by hurricanes, as I have friends who live in Baton Rogue, but New Orleans gets the brunt of it for obvious reasons. Loss of lives, property, homes, devastation, flooding, etc. not to mention billions of dollars in relief funds can be avoided by some clear, innovative thinking.

Sure, let’s move all the population of New Orleans next to The Villages and show them how to live.

Isn’t it amazing how we send trillions around the world but Americans have a problem taking care of fellow Americans.

Chi-Town 08-29-2021 09:52 PM

Due to catastrophic transmission damage New Orleans is without power.

Taltarzac725 08-29-2021 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1996380)
Due to catastrophic transmission damage New Orleans is without power.

Sad. I saw that Florida Power & Light is sending many workers to Louisiana.

Florida Power & Light deploys employees to assist Louisiana

Escape Artist 08-29-2021 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 1996353)
Any of the areas affected by hurricanes would include all coastal areas from Key West north to roughly Virginia Beach and west to Brownsville, Tx. Then why stop at hurricanes. What about Nor’easters? Maine to Wilmington, NC. What about earthquakes, tornadoes, forest fires, mudslides, rising sea levels. There’s a big one. According to the climate activists, we have what 11 years until the sea levels rise. Shouldn’t we be proactive and start moving inland? Start with Long Island and Manhattan. Relocate everything and everyone off those two islands. Cease all development anywhere 50 miles from the coastal areas. We need to be ready for the inevitable. Time is short.

Nah, all stupid ideas.

Not stupid, it's rational. Read the above posts about how resources and workers from other states now have to be deployed in New Orleans.

Escape Artist 08-30-2021 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1996361)
Sure, let’s move all the population of New Orleans next to The Villages and show them how to live.

Isn’t it amazing how we send trillions around the world but Americans have a problem taking care of fellow Americans.

How long are you willing to take care of people that keep having the same thing happen to them over and over again? It's like having a dysfunctional friend who keep getting arrested for DUI's and you gotta bail them out of jail, pick up the pieces of their life, etc. If you're a good, caring friend eventually you help them get to the root of their problem and fix it so these tragic events don't keep occurring. It's important to find solutions and not be so fatalistic about it.

Mrprez 08-30-2021 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1996389)
Not stupid, it's rational. Read the above posts about how resources and workers from other states now have to be deployed in New Orleans.

That happens after every major storm. The power companies rally together and dispatch crews to the affected areas no matter where it is. This is not unique to New Orleans.

Aces4 08-30-2021 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1996392)
How long are you willing to take care of people that keep having the same thing happen to them over and over again? It's like having a dysfunctional friend who keep getting arrested for DUI's and you gotta bail them out of jail, pick up the pieces of their life, etc. If you're a good, caring friend eventually you help them get to the root of their problem and fix it so these tragic events don't keep occurring. It's important to find solutions and not be so fatalistic about it.

I will support banning that area from being populated when the entire state of Florida is abandoned also. I’m tired of the money being required for the patching and restoration of Florida.

What a ridiculous solution to a temporary problem.

tvbound 08-30-2021 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 1996422)
That happens after every major storm. The power companies rally together and dispatch crews to the affected areas no matter where it is. This is not unique to New Orleans.

In late October of 2004 we were on a road trip and eastbound from Mobile, toward Jacksonville on I-10, we saw oodles of out-of-Florida power company caravans - finally going home.

As for Louisiana this morning, I can't imagine the deaths, stories and damage that will be reported. :(


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