Originally Posted by Miles42 (Post 1453448)

Values are passed down, some parents missed the boat

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1453493)

What seems to be missing the most today, to me, is pride. Pride in yourself, your accomplishments, your community... Every kid gets a trophy or ribbon, no matter how bad the performance was. Performers get standing O's even if they fall down on stage, hit sour notes, miss the beat, obviously forget a line. How do you feel pride for a job well done when you get praise for a job poorly done? Right along with that is there's little shame. You do something criminal, you get a slap on the wrist. Athletes, entertainers, politicians say and do things that are not just they're downright evil at times. They still get the accolades, the money, the hero worship. Our grands see this on a daily basis. Without pride and shame, a lot of self is lost. Ethics fall to the wayside. Honor gradually becomes none existent. That is what I truly miss from the fifties and I feel is where kids of today are sorely cheated.

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1451537)

Sometime we just need a break from today's political climate and I one way is to tune in old movies .

I watched Jennifer Jones in "Good Morning Miss Dove" It presented an idyllic America. I recognize that the 1950's had its problems but this movie represented pretty much the America I remember.

Miss Dove, an elementary teacher made demands on her students both stoic and scholastic and she reciprocated by taking a personal interest in each of her students.

Traditional values were apparent had work, self discipline, self respect, respect for authority, respect for others , calculated reticence , honor.

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1451587)

I remember the fifties a lot differently -- it was a time of great fear because of the A-bomb. Women rarely worked outside of the home and, if they did, it was usually in a subservient role. Even professional women were pushed into the lesser roles (attorneys for estate planning, trusts, family law; physicians were ob-gyns) most of the time. It was okay for a male to have pre-marital sex and extra-curricular marital affairs were to be bragged about. A female was shamed. Minorities were kept in their place, separate but equal was the way of life, lynchings were common. It was acceptable to beat your wife so long as the stick was no bigger than the width of your thumb. Not only could parents spank their children, so could your neighbor or the principal and some of those spankings were flat out beatings. Sexual abuse was common and the girl was nearly always at fault, even if only ten. Miscegenation was a crime. So was homosexuality. And so on and so forth. The fifties were a time of violence, fear, cruelty and bigotry.

A lot of the values such as hard work, honesty, respect, trust are still prevalent today. Yes, the language is rougher today, chivalry towards females is gone, some of the niceties have disappeared. Even so, I'll take today's world. It's a lot more honest and, in many ways, kinder.

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1451587)

I remember the fifties a lot differently -- it was a time of great fear because of the A-bomb. Women rarely worked outside of the home and, if they did, it was usually in a subservient role. Even professional women were pushed into the lesser roles (attorneys for estate planning, trusts, family law; physicians were ob-gyns) most of the time. It was okay for a male to have pre-marital sex and extra-curricular marital affairs were to be bragged about. A female was shamed. Minorities were kept in their place, separate but equal was the way of life, lynchings were common. It was acceptable to beat your wife so long as the stick was no bigger than the width of your thumb. Not only could parents spank their children, so could your neighbor or the principal and some of those spankings were flat out beatings. Sexual abuse was common and the girl was nearly always at fault, even if only ten. Miscegenation was a crime. So was homosexuality. And so on and so forth. The fifties were a time of violence, fear, cruelty and bigotry.

A lot of the values such as hard work, honesty, respect, trust are still prevalent today. Yes, the language is rougher today, chivalry towards females is gone, some of the niceties have disappeared. Even so, I'll take today's world. It's a lot more honest and, in many ways, kinder.

Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1455301)

Was born in 1938 to white Anglo middle class family living in pleasant area of Baltimore. Comfortable, and largely ignorant of the real trauma suffered by the actual majority of humans. Lived in a cocoon and oblivious to the needs of those who did not share the "idyllic" life.
Redwitch has it about right IMHO.

Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 1455379)

A lot of us didn't live in a cocoon, and I certainly didn't.
But because of that, I was able to get a pretty broad
picture of the world around me.
It was hard to be oblivious in the area of Chicago I grew up in!

Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1455301)

Was born in 1938 to white Anglo middle class family living in pleasant area of Baltimore. Comfortable, and largely ignorant of the real trauma suffered by the actual majority of humans. Lived in a cocoon and oblivious to the needs of those who did not share the "idyllic" life.
Redwitch has it about right IMHO.

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1456336)

The fifties were great, if you were a white male in the USA. Not so much for women and minorities.