Bogie Shooter,

People kill people with cars, knifes, clubs, rocks, fists, etc. Don't blame the object, blame the person. Enforce the current gun laws on the books, if you use a weapon in a crime, and don't hurt anyone, life in prison, if you hurt someone, the death penalty, snf no sitting on death row for 30 years doing all the appeals. 30 days and they are gone.

See problem solved.

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Using your logic..
Knives don't kill people, people kill people.... with KNIVES..
Should we make it illegal for people to own knives too?

If only the folks who like toting guns were just a tad more disarming....

They always seem so militant on the subject.

I don't care who carries a gun and who doesn't, but if I know they do, I don't want them to visit me.

And...in the above post. Please note the descriptive term "madman".

Very awful and very sad.

It just took a little longer to get going.:)

IMO, sounds just like the other gun related discussions. Just a differeent thread title....

Yeah, no one ever changes their minds on this subject. There are pros and cons either way. I say do what you like but do it legally.

I agree. I'm done, I don't want to waste any more space.

Is it logical to say, "You have a gun, I'll get none." "You have two, I'll still get none." "You get three or more, I'll stick by no gun at all." Ahhh, If only pacifism worked! We would all be safe, but sadly, when the bad guns outnumber the good guns, the good guys lose. '

Actually, the topic if this discussion is, "of one other person had a gun, could the magnitude of this tragedy have been reduced?" Regardless of how the topic is discussed, the answer is "yes."

Reminds me of discussions with my sister. Whenever I provide an irrefutable position, she says, "now you're being ridiculous."

You are correct, the answer is yes.

Than I will try to be done too, Bogie. You have a great deal of sense.

Wouldn't that be a qualified "yes", make that a maybe.

Provided that other person didn't get shot before they could get to and/or use the gun? Maybe was able to fire and missed and then got shot. No guarantee that it would have reduced the tragedy.

I am more in fear of the lack of morality and civility in our society today than guns. Surf your computer and click through the television shows and then tell me that guns are the bigger problem. and think about this those immoral jerks are actually breeding

'or knives or rocks or baseball bats or sticks or slingshots or poison or drugs or pillows or hands. The list goes on and on and on. Shall we outlaw them all?

I know a couple that did a murder-suicide using zip ties. Yes, it did happen.